Springfield Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Reggie Perrin said: Would you actually notice if these particular players downed tools? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPar Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Back Post Misses said: So he tells them that and they say fine I will just sit tight and see put my contract and take the cash? If anyone who has a contract now the reality is you will have to pay at least a proportion of it to move players on. That is the reality. Having that conversation comes at a cost sadly Paying them a proportion of their wage - in return for nothing - between now and the expiry of their contracts is still preferable to paying them their full wage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 7 minutes ago, AGPar said: Paying them a proportion of their wage - in return for nothing - between now and the expiry of their contracts is still preferable to paying them their full wage. If it means someone else can come in, certainly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluegrass Bairn Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 5 hours ago, AGPar said: .... too many of the current lot simply will not take us where we want to go. Moving on players (and there's 2 or 3 of his own signings I would not be remotely sorry to see the back of) and freshening up the squad is a hell of a task, but every effort has to be made. Otherwise it's a fifth consecutive season at this level. Spot on. Can't see a way this current collection is going to get promoted. winning the league is almost gone; we have never had the consistency (or quality) to go on any substantial win x 6 or x 10 run, which is what's needed. Via the Playoffs seems just as big a stretch - we haven't shown the physical or mental strength to get tough and out-muscle anyone in L1, never mind the Championship. To say January is make or break is a hell of an understatement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bluegrass Bairn said: Spot on. Can't see a way this current collection is going to get promoted. winning the league is almost gone; we have never had the consistency (or quality) to go on any substantial win x 6 or x 10 run, which is what's needed. Via the Playoffs seems just as big a stretch - we haven't shown the physical or mental strength to get tough and out-muscle anyone in L1, never mind the Championship. To say January is make or break is a hell of an understatement. Great post 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnschild Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Reggie Perrin said: Should they decide to see out their contracts it doesn’t really change anything, they will just be taking their contracted salary. Should they strike a deal to leave early then no loss to the quality of the squad and potentially enough money freed up (probably need at least three of them to move on) to fund a new signing. These fringe guys whose contracts are nearing their end will already be having serious conversations with their agents. Do you need an agent when your next club is East Stirling and Lithgy Rose ? Edited December 21, 2022 by Bairnschild 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grangemouth Bairn Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 Just been on the ‘Race to Administration’ thread on the Championship Forum. Did one of you shag that angry Morton fans mum/wife/sister or something ? There’s something about any chat about Falkirk that totally triggers the guy. He comes across as absolutely seething like he actually hates us . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC55 FFC Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Grangemouth Bairn said: Just been on the ‘Race to Administration’ thread on the Championship Forum. Did one of you shag that angry Morton fans mum/wife/sister or something ? There’s something about any chat about Falkirk that totally triggers the guy. He comes across as absolutely seething like he actually hates us . He does hate us, but then I think he probably hates everyone, himself especially! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, AGPar said: Paying them a proportion of their wage - in return for nothing - between now and the expiry of their contracts is still preferable to paying them their full wage. But you said there would be no financial penalty to the club by having these conversations. Of course paying them off and bringing in better players is preferable but it costs money. It is not McGlynn being brave or not it the financials in the main IMO will drive these decisions Edited December 22, 2022 by Back Post Misses 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Had a chuckle at the clubs latest photoshop. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believe The Hype Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Back Post Misses said: There is a difference in making the hard calls and the affordability. If McGlynn could have do you not think he would have cleared virtually all of them last summer? Personally I do but finance dictated he was stuck with them. Six months left on contracts may make things a bit easier now hopefully. 100%, and I think this is evidenced by his release of telfer who was the only one of those out of contract even though he was the best out of that bunch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGPar Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Back Post Misses said: But you said there would be no financial penalty to the club by having these conversations. Of course paying them off and bringing in better players is preferable but it costs money. It is not McGlynn being brave or not it the financials in the main IMO will drive these decisions Eh? Who said anything about "paying off players"? It certainly wasn't me anyway. The idea that McGlynn simply sitting down with a few players for an honest conversation about their future would automatically, inevitably lead to the club being disadvantaged on a financial level is simply nonsensical. There are numerous possible outcomes to such a scenario, none of which would leave the club any worse off, and some the opposite. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 55 minutes ago, Springfield said: Had a chuckle at the clubs latest photoshop. That's not a photoshop. It's a photo in a shop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shodwall cat Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 As I said previously Mcglynn was loathe to push harder to get players out the door in case it affected team morale too much even though one of the caveates in him getting the extra money in his budget was that it would be ballanced out by players moving on too. He's obviously been in discussion with the board over January moves or he wouldn't be looking at options but who knows whether he needs to move players on or not to facilitate that. If he does I'm sure he realises that to have a chance of pushing the pars we need players in badly and will have to make some tough decisions on who is told they can move on. Sometimes you have to move on one of your better players to improve the side. I wonder if Morrison would have a few suitors. He has scored a few worldies which would perhaps sway someone else to take a chance on him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 54 minutes ago, Shodwall cat said: As I said previously Mcglynn was loathe to push harder to get players out the door in case it affected team morale too much even though one of the caveates in him getting the extra money in his budget was that it would be ballanced out by players moving on too. He's obviously been in discussion with the board over January moves or he wouldn't be looking at options but who knows whether he needs to move players on or not to facilitate that. If he does I'm sure he realises that to have a chance of pushing the pars we need players in badly and will have to make some tough decisions on who is told they can move on. Sometimes you have to move on one of your better players to improve the side. I wonder if Morrison would have a few suitors. He has scored a few worldies which would perhaps sway someone else to take a chance on him. Tbh is there any player I’d be upset/angry to see go in a week or so - it’s a big NO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanky_ffc Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 On 21/12/2022 at 09:54, Shodwall cat said: Heard we're looking at a few players from kelty for next season. Bring him home 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaggerG Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 24 minutes ago, Springfield said: Tbh is there any player I’d be upset/angry to see go in a week or so - it’s a big NO Well I certainly wouldn't want to see the likes of Donaldson, McGinn or, especially, McCann lining up against us! Also, whilst he's very infuriating, Morrison would no doubt tear us a new one if playing against us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 Interview in FH with Paul Smith where he states that Henderson is back training again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 2 hours ago, AGPar said: Eh? Who said anything about "paying off players"? It certainly wasn't me anyway. The idea that McGlynn simply sitting down with a few players for an honest conversation about their future would automatically, inevitably lead to the club being disadvantaged on a financial level is simply nonsensical. There are numerous possible outcomes to such a scenario, none of which would leave the club any worse off, and some the opposite. It is not nonsensical at all. I am agreeing with you about having those conversations but the reality is if you want shot early it will cost you money, unless you can find a loan to the end of the contract. They players are not going to walk away for nothing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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