Dunning1874 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I'd think Murray would go to a bigger club, as I've said before, either in the SPFL Prem or down south. However, Morton have the backing of Rae who might be tempted to part with a bit of cash in order to get one of the best up and coming managers in the lower leagues. Not a chance IMO. Maybe if it was still the same situation as three or four years ago he'd be tempted by the opportunity to work with a really good budget, but now Rae's rightly stopped chucking money around and our budget is in line with the rest of the division there's simply nothing attractive about the Morton job to someone already managing in this division, regardless of the opportunity to go full-time. Like Hartley, Murray would be mental to come here rather than holding out for a Premiership job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpoonTon Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Not a chance IMO. Maybe if it was still the same situation as three or four years ago he'd be tempted by the opportunity to work with a really good budget, but now Rae's rightly stopped chucking money around and our budget is in line with the rest of the division there's simply nothing attractive about the Morton job to someone already managing in this division, regardless of the opportunity to go full-time. Like Hartley, Murray would be mental to come here rather than holding out for a Premiership job. At the same time these guys also know that it's not sensible to stick around at a part-time club for too long. Managers like Hartley, Cameron, and Murray are getting as much out of the part-time clubs as possible at the moment, the reality is that the part-time clubs inevitably fall back to near the bottom of the table. The other problem is that it isn't common for top flight clubs to pick up a manager from a part-time team, giving them the first opportunity at managing a full-time club in the top league is a risk that many clubs aren't willing to take. Danny Lennon would seem to be the exception in recent years. How realistic is it for those 3 managers to believe that there is a top flight job just down the line for them? The reality is that if Morton offer a good wage then there's a good chance that they would see it as an oppotunity to cut their teeth in full-time management. At this moment in time they know that guys like Grant Murray, Alex Neil, and Gary Holt have a better opportunity to prove themselves to bigger clubs. Unless they're really happy with their life managing a part-time team then at some point they know they have to take a risk - which will come either at one of the full-time lower league clubs or perhaps as an assistant at a higher level. The big problem for Morton is that this certainly wouldn't be a cheap option (in terms of wage, compensation, and offering the funds for players to turn things around), and it would have been far easier to convince someone to join us at the end of last season. It's far more likely that Morton will pick up someone desperate to get back into management, or someone looking for their first job (if/when Moore leaves by mutual consent). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 At the same time these guys also know that it's not sensible to stick around at a part-time club for too long. Managers like Hartley, Cameron, and Murray are getting as much out of the part-time clubs as possible at the moment, the reality is that the part-time clubs inevitably fall back to near the bottom of the table. The other problem is that it isn't common for top flight clubs to pick up a manager from a part-time team, giving them the first opportunity at managing a full-time club in the top league is a risk that many clubs aren't willing to take. Danny Lennon would seem to be the exception in recent years. How realistic is it for those 3 managers to believe that there is a top flight job just down the line for them? The reality is that if Morton offer a good wage then there's a good chance that they would see it as an oppotunity to cut their teeth in full-time management. At this moment in time they know that guys like Grant Murray, Alex Neil, and Gary Holt have a better opportunity to prove themselves to bigger clubs. Unless they're really happy with their life managing a part-time team then at some point they know they have to take a risk - which will come either at one of the full-time lower league clubs or perhaps as an assistant at a higher level. The big problem for Morton is that this certainly wouldn't be a cheap option (in terms of wage, compensation, and offering the funds for players to turn things around), and it would have been far easier to convince someone to join us at the end of last season. It's far more likely that Morton will pick up someone desperate to get back into management, or someone looking for their first job (if/when Moore leaves by mutual consent). The very fact that he's doing such a good job with a part time club in a mostly full time division will make the clubs in the division above notice him even more I'd think. I really don't see the need for him to prove himself at full time club in this division before anyone will take a punt on him. I think it's very realistic for Murray, Hartley and Cameron to think they'll have a good chance at getting a job in top league up here, all 3 have carried out good jobs at part time clubs and have them competing to stay in this division. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 so lolton could be saved from bottom spot with Livi entering administration. Hopefully still pumped down by Ayr in the play-offs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Cameron's still not a very good manager, regardless of Saturday's result. The other two should have SPL management offers before the season's out. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adopted beath Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Cameron's still not a very good manager, regardless of Saturday's result. The other two should have SPL management offers before the season's out. Cant understand that statement VT.He is at a club with less overall potential than the other two and doing pretty well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IainMorton Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 so lolton could be saved from bottom spot with Livi entering administration. Hopefully still pumped down by Ayr in the play-offs. lolton? is that the best you could do?! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenockRover Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 How about.... Roflton, Or... Chuckleton, Or... Shiton Or... Plankton Or...... (possibly the funniest one) . . . . . MORTON!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forzamorton Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 How about.... Roflton, Or... Chuckleton, Or... Shiton Or... Plankton Or...... (possibly the funniest one) . . . . . MORTON!!!! Oh dear Lord. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenockRover Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Oh dear Lord. It was a long day at work......... Sacked Moorinho yet? Might be too late after Christmas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 It's Wednesday and Moore is still employed at Cappielow. He must be driving a hard bargain for their "left by mutual consent". A lot of sweeties up for negotiation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomDom Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 It's Wednesday and Moore is still employed at Cappielow. He must be driving a hard bargain for their "left by mutual consent". A lot of sweeties up for negotiation? I think it might be more of a case of Dougie Rae, as usual, being a fucking simpleton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 I think it might be more of a case of Dougie Rae, as usual, being a fucking simpleton. Usually par for the course with football club owners!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cappiecat Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 It was a long day at work......... Sacked Moorinho yet? Might be too late after Christmas At least you're in the right thread for your bottom of the barrel posts. What's happened man? You used to be quite good at this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenockRover Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 At least you're in the right thread for your bottom of the barrel posts. What's happened man? You used to be quite good at this. Never underestimate the destructive nature of fatigue..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callyboy Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Seems your reserves are as bad as your 1st team destroyed by Annan 4-puff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true_rover Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 4? Try 6 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenockRover Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 4? Try 6 Was this the Armageddon The Rangers fans and MSM warned us aabout 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baba douche Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) OT, but how I Tidser getting on down South? I've not heard any mention of him since he left. Edited October 25, 2013 by baba douche 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagyar Posted October 25, 2013 Share Posted October 25, 2013 OT, but how I Tidser getting on down South? I've not heard any mention of him since he left. Only played 4 times for them so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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