chrismcarab Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Well, like a fledgling SPL manager here I am making my first post on this illustrious forum. So, since I'm new to all of this, I think its best to claim that I mean no harm to anyone who reads this post and that I cannot be responsible for the actions of individual morons who may take something that I absolutely intend to insinuate during my outburst and apply it out of context. Even though I fully appreciate that some follow followers have an IQ lower than a certain clubs current credit rating. Previous witch-hunts and bomb threats not withstanding, I'd like to offer these nuggets for your consideration..... While I have no desire to see any club in the sorry state that Rangers find themselves in, theres a few things bugging me, completely separate to the legal issues of the takeover and the deflection tactics surrounding the punishment meted out that seem to be getting lost in the crossfire. Allow me to refocus the debate........ 1. Rangers are skint. The fine handed out to the club works out at under £4000 a week for a series of rules breaches. Anyone want to bet that, even on the currently negotiated 75% wage reductions, most of the first team staff are still taking home more than that. Hardly a bank breaker when Lafferty has just been fined personally by RFC for playing truant. Every little helps as they say.... 2. If they are skint and have no money, is there really any point in complaining about not being able to sign players. Last I heard, players cost money. If you're still confused, please see point one above. Any money from the upcoming summer sales will be used to repay creditors. Perhaps the Ibrox DJ would like to start playing some Bob Marley over the next few games. May I suggest 'Exodus' as a fine example of his work. 3. If Rangers were/are to be bought over and someone invests in the club, are the fans, McCoist, Smith etc., really suggesting that they should be allowed to go out and buy success again simply because someone will finance player transfers and then, as a cherry on top, they still want to be allowed to remain in the top tier? What lessons have the big boys of Scottish football learned there? That they are still the people? It may be a nightmare, but rest assured my blue nose friends, you are very much awake. 4. Can any true football fan, regardless of club, think that the impending doomsday scenario is ALL bad for scottish football? Let's be honest, most Scottish football is bad at the best of times, even with Rangers and a whole new approach is required. So if RFC dropping off the radar to division three directly affects my/our clubs, then we all have to accept that we must cut the cloth accordingly, for the future of the Scottish game. Whatever that entails. From what I see in the youth ranks at clubs across the country and most notably at Falkirk, the future is bright, some might even say its a particular shade of orange. Time to stand together. 5. Welcome to the world of provincial football. A period of being a 'selling club' and learning what its like to rear young players through the youth ranks only for some unscrupulous club to come in and offer a pittance that you know is well below the asking price, but you are in no position to refuse might, just might give some people the dose of humility that is long overdue. Treading the fine line every year between success and failure/bankruptcy. Not so long ago, there were tenners waving in the air when visiting teams played at Ibrox, apparently as a gesture of the (wealth?) that was abundant within. Perhaps the Rangers Supporters Trusts should organise another such display during the demonstration march to Hampden. That way you can pay the fine that has been issued. If all 40,000 of you go, I reckon you'll have £240,00 in change. Enough to sign a reasonable standard SPL player like the rest of us have to watch - week in, week out. Time to stop thinking it shouldn't be happening to you. It's not the Rangers fans fault, but neither was it the fault of Gretna fans, Livingston fans, Dundee fans, Falkirk fans. I don't recall many column inches being devoted to saving these institutions which were every bit as important to the fabric of their communities, staff etc. 6. Walters comments in the press smack of exactly the kind of elitism that has lead Rangers to the point they find themselves at now, plain and simple. For example: For: "The sanctions they have given would, in my mind, put them in danger of relegation and every club in the league would suffer then." Read: "It's not fair. Plus we're too big to be relegated. Regardless of what we do off the pitch. We're bigger and better than all of the rest of you, so if you don't help us by turning a blind eye again to us breaking the rules we all agreed to abide by, you'll all be sorry" Hardly the best way to ingratiate oneself and extract sympathy across the board from your peers Wattie. 7. Anyone else see similarities between RBS and RFC all along the line from the warning signs to the excuse mongering and finger pointing? Fred the Shred took the brunt of what happened at RBS, but lets be honest, he couldn't have done it alone or in a few short months. Whyte has his share,( pardon the pun), of blame to take but thats all it is - a share of the blame. Many many more are complicit in this charade. By the way, If you own shares in both RBS and RFC, you have my most sincere sympathy. 8. Much as I and many others have a soft spot for super Ally his outburst, while understandable, cannot go unpunished. As previous posts have alluded to he knew exactly the type of reaction that was likely, given the 'spirited' nature attributed to a section of his clubs followers. By 'outting' the three man panel in the way that he did and questioning the impartial nature and integrity of their judgement, something that ALL clubs including his beloved Rangers signed up to well before this current saga came to fruition, I think Ally has unwittingly galvanised the rest of us into standing our ground and the SFA into digging their heels in even further. By the way, for clarification, digging your heels in is NOT the same as sticking the boot in. I see no difference in questioning the integrity of the sports ruling body, whether you like them or not, than there is in questioning a referees integrity. Mr Lennon, please take note. 9. Five. Thats right, FIVE. Count them. One, two, three, four, FIVE breaches of rules that clubs are to abide by out of six charges. Its not even as if they got a 'not guilty' with the other one. Not proven is the legal equivalent of 'we know you did it, we just don't have enough evidence yet to nail you for this one too'. 10. I simply had to make this up to ten purely to match the number of points deducted so far and for my own childish personal amusement. That's me being as transparent as I can be with my reasons. If you enjoyed this too, thats a bonus. Offshore of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhumper Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Are they dead yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonedsailor Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 (edited) I think you made the list Broccoli. And I'm no telling those staggies where I'm from, I don't want them leaking it on tinternet and end up with me having to get advice on dealing with suspect packages. Edited April 26, 2012 by stonedsailor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Awww booooo, how can you troll someone who gets precious about a commie from 75 years ago. It's like taking the piss out of...well...rangers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Agreed. Two Jocks, Stein & Wallace, must be spinning in their graves. Both clubs losing what dignity they had, in an embarrassingly public way. Are you serious? You really need to read up the history of these 2 clubs. They've been at this for over 100 years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Disappointed not to have made the list of good Proddy clubs tbh. All those years of hearing from local degenerates about how we were part of an anti-Catholic conspiracy: no recognition. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raith Against The Machine Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Wait, I support a proddy club? Father O'Donnell's not going to be pleased when he hears about this! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Apartheid What next? White gowns and hoods? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughsie Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 When we reach page 666, Rangers die. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Lets just divide the Scottish football into two big leagues, Catholic v Protestant. The centerpiece can be to replace the cup final with a play off to decide which denomination is the best. Now is St. Johnstone a proddy saint or a kafflik saint? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Sensible Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Well, like a fledgling SPL manager here I am making my first post on this illustrious forum. So, since I'm new to all of this, I think its best to claim that I mean no harm to anyone who reads this post and that I cannot be responsible for the actions of individual morons who may take something that I absolutely intend to insinuate during my outburst and apply it out of context. Even though I fully appreciate that some follow followers have an IQ lower than a certain clubs current credit rating. Previous witch-hunts and bomb threats not withstanding, I'd like to offer these nuggets for your consideration..... etc Good first post. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
placidcasual Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Disappointed not to have made the list of good Proddy clubs tbh. All those years of hearing from local degenerates about how we were part of an anti-Catholic conspiracy: no recognition. It reads more like a list of clubs who either are, or were in the not too distant past, comletely fucked financially. Maybe he meant to write "Provy League". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archie guevara Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Are you serious? You really need to read up the history of these 2 clubs. They've been at this for over 100 years. Aye. The clue is in "what dignity they had"... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 It reads more like a list of clubs who either are, or were in the not too distant past, comletely fucked financially. Maybe he meant to write "Provy League". Still think Morton should have made the list then. Gutted doesn't cover it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBadSaint Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Although McCoist and the also recently mouthing off Smith have benefited probably directly, but certainly indirectly, from the years of inflated wages I feel a littel sorry for the position he finds himself in. He's an ex player with a bit of media experience.....no great business skills training no great financial or legal understanding and he rather the clowns supposed to be 'running the club' is the one having to front things. Pressure obviously telling as the statement about wanting to know the SFA panel names was extremely badly judged. It's clear he either knew or simply had to ask the Rangers representative present so was in effect saying "We want these guys names known - to our supporters.....why...probably just to pressurise them but knowing their following he must have considered it would lead to intimidation. And the Scottish media are prepared to print this and worse today knowing the same but not caring less. A majority of them seem to be panicking that their meal ticket is dissappearing and they'll be found out as not having the inside knowledge they all wanted us to believe the had or if they did they hadn't the balls to speak up over the last few years. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Disappointed not to have made the list of good Proddy clubs tbh. All those years of hearing from local degenerates about how we were part of an anti-Catholic conspiracy: no recognition. The wee dublin end blew it for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Still think Morton should have made the list then. Gutted doesn't cover it. Hoops dear boy, hoops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freethefalkirkstreaker Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 You misunderstand i want to know where ethel hot dungarees(freedom for ft cnts) is from ? I think you made the list Broccoli. And I'm no telling those staggies where I'm from, I don't want them leaking it on tinternet and end up with me having to get advice on dealing with suspect packages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hipster Dufus Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Still think Morton should have made the list then. Gutted doesn't cover it. Greenock Morton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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