madeirabhoy Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 What's to stop them is Celtic's need for Rangers to be right beside them in the SPL for their own financial safety. Great theory though! no we dont. fact is, having a crack at champions league every year will make up any shortfall compared to having the **** and getting CL every 2nd year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBairn Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Have I mentioned that I love and respect Jim Spence? Questions being asked of wee rascals Doncaster, Regan and Longmuir. Spence for the freedom of Scotland! I'll be the first to buy him a pint. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagsman411971 Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Jim Spence for President 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araminta Moonbeam QC Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 1339853934[/url]' post='6342213']is it not slightly tempered by the fact that he would tell you the sky is green if steven thompson told him to? A wee bit but he's been speaking a world of truth over this issue. His ranting on Shortbread this afternoon is breathtaking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 employee benefit trusts are for the use of current and former employees and their families. strangely if he was just getting random loans after leaving ibrox that would be the scheme being used correctly. If they were tax-free bungs for player transfers it might not be.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If SFA / SPL merge, this takes away each individual club's "share" in spl therefore easier to parachute ZombieH*ns into top tier of new setup ? Just being Devil's Advocate or maybe dense ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Spence for the freedom of Scotland! I'll be the first to buy him a pint. your in for a fight then from a lot of us 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBairn Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Doncaster fur the sack? Cockwomble is a complete irrelevance. A mere flake in this saga. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert Nomad Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 it was as a loan. loans don't have to be repaid. EBT's are the kind of things that financial directors or chief exec's would be dealing with imo.smith obviously knew they were using EBTs by virtue of his having one but do you think he was wholly aware of the rules governing their administration? As manager of the football club he probably should have or at least questioned it. Here's some tax free money, Smith is anything but stupid remember. A few people are pinning Smith up to be some sort of hero, but I'm not so sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Massive restructuring of the divisions is years, many years, overdue. Funny that it took Rangers keeling over before anyone in authority noticed, but maybe some good for the entire game will come out of this sorry debacle. That is, more good for the entire game than RFC going bust, which was pretty fuxing good in the first place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismcarab Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 1339852648[/url]' post='6342123']it's not illegal to use an EBT and it's up to the employer to make sure it is used correctly. smith has no case to answer here. also if thomson thinks that smith or any other manager is personally dealing the small print of contracts he is deluded. Seems to me you continually choose to hang yourself up on the legality of what different posters imply and ignore the morals. What everyone is in agreement on is that Walter in all likelihood was aware of EBT payments to players, which may well be legal if applied correctly. However, if he was aware, that's IF he was aware, that part of the EBT payments were used as wages top ups that's nothing to do with 'small print', and that becomes a moral issue for a man who is being trumpeted by the media and the Rangers fans as the bastion of all things to be revered. In that respect, he needs to provide 'transparency' on that issue which would only serve to reinforce his credibility, or should it prove otherwise, destroy it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBairn Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 your in for a fight then from a lot of us I've hired a tanker and filled it with the necter stuff. My pint's bigger than yours 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuntoiRab Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Sportsound for change, Spence giving it fan power. WTF next? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuntoiRab Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 MJ resigns? Nah, wake up boy :rolleyes: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordHawHaw Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 As manager of the football club he probably should have or at least questioned it. Here's some tax free money, Smith is anything but stupid remember. A few people are pinning Smith up to be some sort of hero, but I'm not so sure. If it's not a conflict of interest then I'm a teapot, did he tell his current employers that he was getting paid by another club..was he involved in any dealings with the club that was giving him illegal bungs? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caff Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 it was as a loan. loans don't have to be repaid. EBT's are the kind of things that financial directors or chief exec's would be dealing with imo.smith obviously knew they were using EBTs by virtue of his having one but do you think he was wholly aware of the rules governing their administration? What? So I don't have pay my car loan back? Or my bank loan? Or my Student Loan? loan/lōn/ Noun:A thing that is borrowed, esp. a sum of money that is expected to be paid back with interest. I think you're talking shite. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Northern Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Jim Spence for President Agreed,with Cosgrove as deputy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T_S_A_R Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 A loan, by definition, has to be repaid otherwise it is a gift and gifts are taxable. but repayment can always be deferred. so in effect it never has to be repaid. do you think chelsea will ever repay abramovich the £700m they owe him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Sportsound for change, Spence giving it fan power. WTF next? Jabba and Chick Faeces to be burned at the stake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBairn Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Have folk noticed a lot of the 'Rangers' minded folk seem to have gone missing from Sportsound over the past few weeks? Maybe the bosses got fed up of it being used to spread misinformation and scare contacts on behalf of Rangers. Because they've finally realised the true voice of Scottish Football needs to be heard. Finally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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