H_B Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Listening to Browns speech, but see if you shut your eyes and listen, it just sounds like some pish stained jakey tramp n Actually, if you open your eyes, you get the same conclusion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele1922 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 eh?? Can you all stop shouting at at once and read this IT WAS POSTED 3 PAGES AGO !!! PRESS STATEMENT: The SFL can confirm that no agreement has been reached between The SFL and any other body regarding the position of Rangers Newco in the First Division. Consultation will continue to take place, primarily with our clubs, as previously advised 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jie Bie Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) SFL Statement: http://www.twitlonger.com/show/i2itcu YOUR GAME–YOUR CLUB–YOUR FUTURE The Scottish Football League, for the last number of days, has been involved in intensive discussions with The Scottish Premier League, The Scottish Football Association and other crucial stakeholders in our game, to try and address, in a positive way, the current critical issues affecting our game. The Scottish Football League will today send a briefing document to its member clubs – a logical and positive communication which will hopefully eliminate some of the understandable doubt, threats and insecurities that are apparent within the game at the moment. The consultation document will fully explain the short and long-term benefits of a number of scenarios which we will be considering at a full Club Meeting next week. The Scottish Football League is trying to address the question of whether we are in a position to accommodate a solution to the Rangers F.C. scenario. We are trying to achieve a solution which will be in the best interests of The Scottish Football League and the wider game. David A. Longmuir Chief Executive, SFL 28th June, 2012. Hope they release this document to the fans as well! Edited June 28, 2012 by Jie Bie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zurcher Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 It's difficult to keep up with this thread at the best of times but it's gone nuclear now, by the time I post this the "sneak the cheating cnuts into the first division" plan might already have been outed as bullshit, but on a serious note this thread is fantastic. I joined this forum recently on the back of the F*ck Mark Lawrenson thread but stayed for this thread. I have lived abroad for a good few years now and had more or less forgotten about Scottish football, this thread has rekindled my love for it, and it would be a painful irony indeed if that happened just as Scottish football commits suicide by bending the rules to allow that bunch of feckin cheats right back in through the back door, because if that does happen then I will never have anything to do with SPL, SFL or Scotland games ever again. I hope they know what they're doing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Sevco cannot produce three years accounts therefore it fails to meet the necessary criteria for admittance to the SFL third Division. Decent post, but you're wrong on this one. The SFL have no requirements for three years of accounts (audited or otherwise). People restating this again and again is simply clouding the issue and, dare I say, making it look like they don't really have a clue what's happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Diamond Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 Just asked a club official if we should be outraged or calm. The reply, "I suspect SFL have leaked it to test the water. The clubs know nothing about it. SPL appears to be passing the banana skin to SFL". So Keep Calm and Carry On Protesting. Unfortunately not entirely true. I heard this very story from a very reliable source with contacts close to the SFL on Monday, it was being discussed extensively by all clubs in the First Division and a deal was close to being hammered out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoonsLad Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 http://www.twitlonger.com/show/i2itcu SFL statement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee4Life1893 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 FFS do people need to post the same bit of news continuously? This thread should be half the size it is. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoonsLad Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 30 pieces surely? Yeah. That's how much I am raging! Thanks 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarreZ Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 The SFA/SFL/SPL have shat it big time. There is big brown sticky marks left on the trousers of Longmuir, Donkeymaster and Regan. No half measures - the only way league construction and having Rangers in division 1 would be acceptable would be for 2 leagues of 20, so they are demoted to the bottom league - no one wants a 20 team league, so thats not going to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) FFS do people need to post the same bit of news continuously? This thread should be half the size it is. Then you complain about said posts...makes sense. Edited June 28, 2012 by Łukasz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adundeemonkey Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) YOUR GAME–YOUR CLUB–YOUR FUTURE The Scottish Football League, for the last number of days, has been involved in intensive discussions with The Scottish Premier League, The Scottish Football Association and other crucial stakeholders in our game, to try and address, in a positive way, the current critical issues affecting our game. There are no critical issues affecting our game. There are just critical issues affecting Rangers 2.0. What a slimy peice of $hit statement. How clear do they want us to be?! I'm convinced they are hoping we get protest fatigue and in the hope that they can squeeze something through at short notice. Edited June 28, 2012 by adundeemonkey 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I've missed a few pages, so apologies if I'm getting this wrong. The situation appears to be that Vlad broke ranks first, and in his own inimitable style, Hearts said 'No' to newco in the SPL. Hibs, ICT, Aberdeen, Arabs... and others (in no particular order) also publicly said 'No' to newco in the SPL. Supporters on here naturally assumed that if Charlie Green (or anyone) could get organised - there were two options facing the newco. One was to apply for what would become a vacant slot in SFL Div 3, and the second was doing a 'Third Lanark' and disappearing, either permanently, or temporarily if they could even do that, and try to come back as a newco somewhere down the line. However, while those SPL chairmen were starting to speak publicly and saying 'No' to newco in the SPL, behind the scenes they knew fine well that there was a cunning plan afoot to do a quick shuffle of the Scottish football pack - purely to allow a Rangers newco to avoid Div 3 or worse, and to grease them a much easier route back to the SPL itself - by creating a new league structure that would see them begin life in 'SPL 2'. Have I picked this up correctly so far? IF (big if) this is the picture - then just how stupid do the SPL chairmen think we are, and how utterly stupid can they be? If this scenario is true, are they really that stupid that they don't realise this is actually worse than simply saying 'yes' to a newco in the SPL in the first place? We have a top flight club who went into administration, then liquidation, due to factors we all are clear about now. It is every bit as wrong to suddenly manufacture a 'league reconstruction' to accomodate their new guise simply because of who this club used to be, as it would be to allow a newco club (ANY newco club) direct entry into the SPL. What is so difficult to understand about this? I have no truck with a re-organisation of the Scottish football scene, it's long overdue - but by Christ, Rangers being corrupt cheating bastuts is no reason to start. FFS - the people running Scottish football? What planet are they on? edit: Posted the above, before seeing the SFL denial that a dodgy deal to re-jig the leagues has been done. Hopefully that is correct, because my God, otherwise they really must think we all came up the Clyde on a banana boat. I was smelling a rat when I read our Chairman's comments in the PDE yesterday. In much the same way that an entire sewer full of stinking rodents was apparent when news broke a couple of weeks back concerning league reconstruction. I'm trying to keep my powder dry with this one in the event that the story has limited substance, but it is increasingly difficult as the day progresses. I'm tired of pointing out that football supporters are treated like mugs due to our perceived blind loyalty to our respective clubs. I have no confidence that this will have changed significantly. I suspect they reckon we've been thrown a bone, and while we're distracted, they'll royally shaft us up the shitter. It is now up to us as to whether we bend over, apply the lube, and comply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 http://www.twitlonger.com/show/i2itcu SFL statement "Crucial stakeholders" - who writes this garbage? These "crucial stakeholders" include the fans, then? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I think all SPL clubs back this idea. It makes sense for them, they can chuck the newco out to appease fans but hope Rangers win the SFL so thing are back to normal after 1 season. You saw Motherwells finances laid bare, we can't afford to run at the levels we are beyond this season and I'm sure the same is true for other clubs. The SPL don't want to reinvent their financial model, this includes Celtic, they want Rangers back, they want a new improved TV deal and if they have to throw some cash and a playoff to do it they will. Exactly so we cut our cloth accordingly. If it means selling half our first team then so be it. f**k them. I would prefer financial prudence and 1st Division football than appeasing SEVCO and the SFA 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superimp69 Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 So, would this require 4 SPL 'NO Votes' to block? As this involves disbanding the SPL, the clubs would be voting to wind up the company amongst other issues. This would require a Qualified Resolution (90%). That would mean 2 clubs could vote it down - unless they fudge the vote which wouldn't be surprising! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doink Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 If this goes through, I'll walk away from the senior set up in Scotland. What other league would cheats be rewarded in this way. Celtic really need to come out now and make a statement. sky are talking about Rangers. Rangers dont fucking exist - is it that difficult. Would not be surprised if Celtic are in bed with this new club 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joozy Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 It's difficult to keep up with this thread at the best of times but it's gone nuclear now, by the time I post this the "sneak the cheating cnuts into the first division" plan might already have been outed as bullshit, but on a serious note this thread is fantastic. I joined this forum recently on the back of the F*ck Mark Lawrenson thread but stayed for this thread. I have lived abroad for a good few years now and had more or less forgotten about Scottish football, this thread has rekindled my love for it, and it would be a painful irony indeed if that happened just as Scottish football commits suicide by bending the rules to allow that bunch of feckin cheats right back in through the back door, because if that does happen then I will never have anything to do with SPL, SFL or Scotland games ever again. I hope they know what they're doing. You're not my old Physics teacher are you? He was the only Partick Thistle fan i knew when i lived in Zurich. And to stay on topic, I hope Rangers fucking rot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I think all SPL clubs back this idea. It makes sense for them, they can chuck the newco out to appease fans but hope Rangers win the SFL so thing are back to normal after 1 season. You saw Motherwells finances laid bare, we can't afford to run at the levels we are beyond this season and I'm sure the same is true for other clubs. The SPL don't want to reinvent their financial model, this includes Celtic, they want Rangers back, they want a new improved TV deal and if they have to throw some cash and a playoff to do it they will. Not sure as Aberdeen No statement had this: "Reorganisation of the game is a priority and is something we have been actively involved in for a long time, but it is not something that should be rushed through just to deal specifically with one club. " 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Left Wing Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 I'm hoping The Left Wing will update us on Celtic's position after today's little news story. Ha,i see what you did there. I'll ignore the slight sarcasm,as there is a relevent point there. We won't have a scheduled CSA meetin until maybe a month, six weeks into a new season. However, the GB Were also given answers on Celtics position and this was enough to urge their members to buy season books. I don't think a u-turn would help what is already a fractious relationship between the club & the GB. Athough i wasn't the one that said "played a blinder", i was happy we never said anything and just to wait on the vote. Maybe we should get some clarity from the club,but if this new set-up is just piss and wind, i'm happy with original position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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