Sherrif John Bunnell Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I've had a look at the clashes caused by Rangers taking-over Stranraer's fixtures and Dundee taking-over Club 12's fixtures... It's quite clear there should be no need whatsoever for lists to be redrawn. Dundee Utd & Dundee clashesSAT 15 SEP... DUNDEE V MOTHERWELL, DUNDEE UTD V ROSS CUNTY * 1 moves to Sunday Seems like HJ is just another Sandy Cromarty alias. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supras Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Giovanni De Stefano is easily the biggest crook involved in this situation - which is no mean feat. As for many of the media stories they are propoganda overload but, as I've discussed earlier, this thread is exactly the same but from the other end of the spectrum. It's a perfect parallel to the Egyptian revolution, we got one thing we want so now lets fully mobilise to hammer any club that don't agree with our interpretation of the situation, and let's keep mobilising in everything unfair we perceive in the future. £3 for a pie? Well, I'm writing a letter to my club saying my great grandfathers....yawn....supported the club and I'll never give you another dime until you bring the price of pies down. And burn some Rangers scarves too. Threats like this are made all too lightly on this thread. It was somewhat appropriate with regards to immediate admission to the SPL but now the beast is out of control. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanco Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Scraping the bottom of the barrel now, amazing how desperate some are. Why not print this headline instead DESERTION OF ONLY 3500 FANS WILL COST THE FIRST DIVISION £1MILLION - FANS SAY NO TO NEWCO CLUBS FACE FINANCIAL RUIN IF NEWCO ADMITTED TO SFL 1 If only you'd thrown in a couple of "ARMAGEDDONS" and "IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT" quotes then it would've been a goer. Back to "red top rag propaganda 101" class for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsjfc Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 SAT 10 NOV... CELTIC V ST JOHNSTONE, RANGERS V PETERHEAD * Celtic move to Sunday anyway if in EL group * otherwise 1 moves to Sunday Good to see you have a lot of faith in Saints upcoming Europa league campaign 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sons superhero Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 That's why I used grander scheme, a club like East Stirling losing 100 fans is like Killie losing 1,000's. Don't sell the diddy fans short, every one is worth a hundred gloryhunters any day of the week. That was not my intention, but I agree fully. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sons superhero Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 If the Sons fans think they have been duped (see Clyde statement a few posts back) then get on the phone to your club continually until Friday. If they think everything was above board at the EGM then they've voted fair and square on what was presented to them. However, I am led to believe it was scaremongering campaign from those at the 'top' at Dumbarton and that the £60,000 withdrawal of cash was misrepresented, as well as the fact that a possible boycott (and they surely must have known by then unless they've had their heads in the sand) that this was a distinct possibility this coming season and that this wasn't taken into account. My belief is that a one-sided doom and gloom story was portrayed which brought fear to those in attendance, hence the result of the vote. I'm sure some of your Trust guys must be reading this and the other posts (you've got a rep on the Board), so if you think a wrongs been done, rectify it. If you think otherwise, fair enough. There has been calls for the meeting to be called again before friday, I hope it will. I can not speak for the fans who voted yes as I voted no but i felt that the finances and a belief that the SFL held all the cards in reconstruction of the leagues by supporting SPL's proposal may have swayed it. Our trust man Alan Findlay though was standing alongside the board and this was a disappointment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sons superhero Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Not lied to, but misled. The topic of the settlement money being contractual was not brought up. I think they told us that the money wouldn't forthcoming henceforth if we didn't lube up and accept Sevco 2012 into Div 1. The whole thing appears to be scaremongering tactics to suit the pre-planned decision of the Dumbarton Board to try and dupe us into voting yes. They suceeded in cajoling 50+ fools into believing their horseshit. I was, and remain, one of the 28 unconvinced with their sales pitch and am staunchly in the "vote Sevco 2012 into Div 3, or eject them for evermore" camp. They got a last-minute plea from me to vote no, but I doubt that they could understand the underlying passion - and some of the phrases I used - when I emailed them. (Cheating, lying, bullying etc) The point that the settlement was contractual was raised then glossed over, i then raised it again and was told nicely that I didn't know the facts. This was true i didn't. I really hope they keep their promise to have another vote before friday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin' Wilf Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Whether the settlement is contractual or not will become irrelevant if the clubs don't have the money to pay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyB Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I know there are a lot of people who would like to see Newco join SFL3 and even their own supporters are starting to say the same, but for different reasons than the rest of us I would assume. There is obviously the sporting integrity aspect which points Newco towards SFL3 and in time with a bit of luck and favour from the bank manager they may survive to reach the top tier in a few years' time. Would we be back to normal, where we have been for decades, with a closed shop and the non-OF teams continuing to fight for the scraps, Scottish football declining and the SPL saying 'f**k you' to the SFL clubs. Or, do the SFL teams swallow their pride and do a deal that will benefit Scottish football, re-structure the leagues, break the OF/SPL monopoly and give more teams a louder voice? I'm sure this option does not sit easy with many, but perhaps it makes sense for the whole of Scottish football. I couldn't give a toss whether Newco survive or die but if the SFL put the nail in their coffin by offering them a place in SFL 3, the SFA & SPL may be more adamant to alienate the SFL and what would we all gain? The SFL are in the best bargaining position they have ever been in and will probably never have another chance like this. If they can get a deal that breaks the monopoly and gives fair power to the non-OF so that we can never return to the current state of affairs, it could be the way ahead! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boereseun Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 http://www.thescotti...relegation.html Exclusive By IAIN KING says it all - RUBBISH 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 I know there are a lot of people who would like to see Newco join SFL3 and even their own supporters are starting to say the same, but for different reasons than the rest of us I would assume. There is obviously the sporting integrity aspect which points Newco towards SFL3 and in time with a bit of luck and favour from the bank manager they may survive to reach the top tier in a few years' time. Would we be back to normal, where we have been for decades, with a closed shop and the non-OF teams continuing to fight for the scraps, Scottish football declining and the SPL saying 'f**k you' to the SFL clubs. Or, do the SFL teams swallow their pride and do a deal that will benefit Scottish football, re-structure the leagues, break the OF/SPL monopoly and give more teams a louder voice? I'm sure this option does not sit easy with many, but perhaps it makes sense for the whole of Scottish football. I couldn't give a toss whether Newco survive or die but if the SFL put the nail in their coffin by offering them a place in SFL 3, the SFA & SPL may be more adamant to alienate the SFL and what would we all gain? The SFL are in the best bargaining position they have ever been in and will probably never have another chance like this. If they can get a deal that breaks the monopoly and gives fair power to the non-OF so that we can never return to the current state of affairs, it could be the way ahead! the best way to get rid of the OF duopoly is to kill one of them...and if newco were all about intergrity they would release a statement saying that they refuse to go into the SF1 and want to apply to SF3 also they would insist they dont get preferential treatment ahead of Spartans ..Edinburgh City etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeTeeJag Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 (edited) Exclusive By IAIN KING says it all - RUBBISH I liked this bit............... This is neither scaremongering or rumours, these are the figures those in the Hampden hierarchy are staring at through the cracks in their fingers. Eh, yes it is. Edited July 11, 2012 by PeeTeeJag 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bring me SON shine Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Cracking read from Clyde, a thoughtful and reasoned responce, well done to the club. Excellent listening to the Peterhead responce too When do the SPL have to hand this £1.9M over to the SFL... Aug 2nd?? How much do the SPL clubs recieve in total on presumebly the same day Anyone know how much money Doncaster has in the SPL coffers? Is this an issue? if newco are put in the 3rd can SKY come knocking to re-do the figures or is SKY's £16m already paid / guarenteed for 2012/2013 Dumbarton need to survey all 500 trust members, not 100 able to make it last Saturday!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Whether the settlement is contractual or not will become irrelevant if the clubs don't have the money to pay. Then the SPL will be bankrupt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 how dare you besmirch the name of ron burgundy... how dare you besmirch the name of Dempsey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 5 million views before the day's out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngsod Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 how dare you besmirch the name of Dempsey. What about Makepeace? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Leighton Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 Iain King = Succulent, I assume ? Iain 'Walter Is' King. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Buddie Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 http://www.thescotti...relegation.html They keep publishing shite like this with "authority" but they can't even get the fact that TTFKAR are no more, and can't be relegated. They are a team without a league membership applying to join a big league rather than a pub league and should be fucking grateful that there is a reasonable chance they'll get to play in the SFL, rather than bump along for years as Annan did and as Spartan are still doing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommytommybrolin Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 "That the Scottish Football League Members agree to admit Sevco Scotland Limited as an Associate Member and agrees to permit Rangers F.C. to play in the THIRD DIVISION OF THE League during Season 2012/13." All Clyde need to do is table an amendment to resolution (i) adding the four words in bold. After that resolution (i) can get passed and the other resolutions can be voted down. If Regan wants to block the amendment then good luck on passing any of them . . . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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