MattBairn Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Sadly that's not actually true. The tragedy of all this came about firstly because there weren't any clear rules in place and Regan manipulated that fact to his own ends. There was no rule to say that applications had to be invited in the event of a vacancy, and no rule saying that any new club had to start in the 3rd. The rules about accounts were discretionary and ultimately the board can over rule anybody or change any rule they like. Morally your right of course, but the whole root of this is the fact that the rules, like everything else in Scottish football were short-sighted, out-dated and ultimately ripe for abuse by cynics. Strange. I seem to remember Airdrie Utd having to apply (along with other candidates) to the SFL3 after the liquidation of Airdrieonians in 2002. I cant remember a vote to keep them in the 1st division? In all seriousness you may be right with regards to actual rules, so point taken. But morally as you say, the right choice certainly wasnt taken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Sadly that's not actually true. The tragedy of all this came about firstly because there weren't any clear rules in place and Regan manipulated that fact to his own ends. There was no rule to say that applications had to be invited in the event of a vacancy, and no rule saying that any new club had to start in the 3rd. The rules about accounts were discretionary and ultimately the board can over rule anybody or change any rule they like. Morally your right of course, but the whole root of this is the fact that the rules, like everything else in Scottish football were short-sighted, out-dated and ultimately ripe for abuse by cynics. That is a very good point, fozzie. Perhaps the Chairmen should reserve a little bit of their enthusiasm for league restructuring for rules restructuring because Regan, as you correctly point out, has gerrymandered the laxness of the present regs. to his own shitty end. Must be tightened up to prevent a repeat of this sorry debacle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reverend Maynard Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 "rangers" fan on radio regarding decision: "happy, aye, will be good going to play in the third division, great for all those wee teams getting to see the mighty glasgow rangers play, great stuff" I heard that too. Sums up that a great many orcs just don't get it. Their club is a disgrace, yet they still have this triumphalist attitude. The reality for many just hasn't hit them yet. Hubris will be a new h word "the rangers" will have to learn soon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Ardbeg beats both!! Mon the beg!!!!! not in this thread............ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Tupe only protects terms and conditions for 90 days. But they can't vary contracts without consent of the players, so if they won't pay the contract price they're risking constructive dismissal tribunals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muttonhumper Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Do this lot know something we don't? Check the left hand column with SPL teams. NewsNow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted July 13, 2012 Author Share Posted July 13, 2012 (edited) This is what pisses me off. All the bollocks of 'the right result', was it f**k. Its better than allowing Sevco straight into the 1st but they have still been given preferential treatment. Spartans are keeping their powder dry. They'll be right in there when it becomes clear that Charlie boy was here for a quick buck (buying the player registrations and punting them to the EPL and Turkey), and pocketing a tidy wedge before riding out of town. His plan has failed. Once Sevco Works XI implodes in further administration shame and an inability to run their operation... they'll fill the void. If unopposed by other applicants of course. When some pundits today are saying 'this is far from finished' - has it occurred that they don't mean an SPL 2 will miraculously appear... they mean that Sevco will go tits-up without completing a full season? Edited July 13, 2012 by pozbaird 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzie Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 They'd better get a sodding move on. Kick-off is fast approaching. Btw, moving on, who else thinks the Orc's are going to be even more unbearable (no pun intended) now. Don't hold your breath. This'll take months. Possibly years. They can call themselves "The Rangers" in the meantime until someone says they can't. As for the trademarks thing, you'd need to ask a lawyer I'm afraid. The point is though, they can get going in the meantime, they don't have to get everything changed in order to start. They might be required to change things further down the line though, but when is anyone's guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairney Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Lady Ibrox running at chester in the 7.40 - The good money says No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland Dogma Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Tupe only protects terms and conditions for 90 days. Aye well that'll be long enough then! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattBairn Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Spartans are keeping their powder dry. They'll be right in there when it becomes clear that Charlie boy was here for a quick buck (buying the player registrations and punting them to the EPL and Turkey), and pocketing a tidy wedge before riding out of town. His plan has failed. Once Sevco Works XI implodes in further administration shame and an inability to run their operation... they'll fill the void. If unopposed by other applicants of course. When some pundits today are saying 'this is far from finished' - has it occurred that they don't mean an SPL 2 will miraculously appear... they mean that Sevco will go tits-up without completing a full season? I still dont get how 29 clubs can vote for Sevco to be part of SFL at all considering the lack of any accounts or simple details of the 'club' Clyde got it spot on with that, and still voted them into the SFL. Dont get me wrong, I've done alot of posting about it. Im delighted they didn't get into the 1st, but it doesn't mean I should be overly happy about the preferential treatment Sevco HAVE received. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 SFA CHIEF EXECUTIVE STEWART REGAN "Ultimately, there must be an outcome that enables Scottish football to move on with consensus, clarity and confidence into a new era for the national game." Yes, your resignation you fucknugget. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boereseun Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBairn Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I will catch up later but first.......... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Lady Ibrox running at chester in the 7.40 - The good money says No I backed Rat Catcher 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 The OP Firstly, I know there's a multitude of threads running - many of which now only exist for our amusement, posting of 'pleasing' gifs, and general 'let's all laugh and point at Rangers' merriment.... The more I'm hearing though, the more I'm looking towards the actual end game here, and would like to gauge reaction as to where we will be a year, two years, however many years down the line. For as long as i remember I have personally felt disgusted by the way football clubs play fast and loose in a manner no 'normal' business can ever hope to get away with. I see this going the same way as so many clubs before them. They'll dodge the big one by playing the administration card. They won't be the first, they won't be the last. So, what's your prediction for the actual end to this? To my eyes it's all set up with Whyte knowing all along that he would decide when to play the administration joker card to position himself as main creditor. I genuinely believe some sort of deal will grudgingly be accepted by HMRC. There will be pain for Rangers - but they will indeed dodge the big hammer blow. Short term pain, longer term, they'll weasel a way to rise phoenix-like from administration, as I say, like so many morally bankrupt cheating football clubs before them. Thoughts? Hopefully not just of a 'LOL' nature! Really looking to see what you guys seriously see the end of this actually being when the dust settles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fozzie Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Strange. I seem to remember Airdrie Utd having to apply (along with other candidates) to the SFL3 after the liquidation of Airdrieonians in 2002. I cant remember a vote to keep them in the 1st division? In all seriousness you may be right with regards to actual rules, so point taken. But morally as you say, the right choice certainly wasnt taken. Airdrie Utd. applied to replace Airdieonians and failed. They later got in by re-branding Clydebank. There are lots of double standards at work here though. In every case when a vacancy has arisen until now it has gone without saying that applications are invited and that new clubs start at the bottom. Why didn't that happen this time? Well, we all know the answer. Bottom line is, there weren't and still aren't any rules in place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macshimmy Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 f**k the ICT Chairman. I'm not just saying that cos i'm a Staggie either. I second that. He's no fool, he has made a very calculated statement of intent for Monday. The silver lining is he's blown the whole illusion that ICT were acting out of anything other than short term self interest,and fully expected the SFL to play along. He's abandoned that game altogether, and is inviting other clubs to shed their false colours. Now we'll find out in short order which other clubs are prepared to bend the knee. Monday could see a few cartwheels I'm afraid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 LaydeezHannaGennelmen, please , I would like, with your permission, to post a wee song for this lovely Friday night, to start an enjoyable weekend before we are all thrown in to the Spivco maelstrom once again on Monday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killingfloorman Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 If I've upset you you should invite me on an expenses paid journey to you're part of the world and I will (sort of) aplogise in person. You didn't really need to tell us you were an ex politician, it's kinda obvious 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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