Itwiznaeme Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 The orcs are getting very het up about this "Hugh Keevins" article concerning the stripping of their titles. I can't find any reference to it except on orc boards. It seems to be a very successful hoax. Who was it? Come on, 'fess up. Sssssshhhhhhisssssh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunfellaff Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) Alright then, how's about this: f**k any club which relies on a partisan view of ancient history in a foreign land to attract financial support from inadequate members of society who need a sense of belonging to bolster their self-esteem and fill a gap in their pathetic lives. Better? Deal Edit 'Cos I realise that includes Aberdeen and the SAF era Edited July 19, 2012 by wunfellaff 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) The link in the op is valid http://www.dailyreco...86908-23910039/ Thanks. Google is shite. eta I see they are blaming Keevins! Messenger and shoot come to mind. Edited July 19, 2012 by cyderspaceman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blanco Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Alright then, how's about this: f**k any club which relies on a partisan view of ancient history in a foreign land to attract financial support from inadequate members of society who need a sense of belonging to bolster their self-esteem and fill a gap in their pathetic lives. Better? Good job MJ doesn't think like you or killie would be racing sevco to the foot of the SFL 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 What a load of absolute shite. Oh yer back online I've kept the thread warm for ya do continue where I left off . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Alright then, how's about this: f**k any club which relies on a partisan view of ancient history in a foreign land to attract financial support from inadequate members of society who need a sense of belonging to bolster their self-esteem and fill a gap in their pathetic lives. Better? I like that one! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnesTON Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Loving the guy on RM who thinks the EBTs were an 'admin error' KeepBelieving1872 Posted Today, 11:35 AM robg58, on 19 July 2012 - 10:31 AM, said: Probe into Rangers title wins to be carried out by independent commission Jul 19 2012 By Hugh Keevins AN independent commission will decide which titles Rangers will lose over the dual contracts system that gave them an unfair advantage over opponents. The SPL's legal team has spent months gathering evidence and they will turn it over to an independent body on August 10 to prosecute the Ibrox club. RecordSport understands the process is expected to take weeks andwill have a wide-ranging remit. They have to decide whether medals are to be withheld or new ones offered to Celtic by way of compensation for when they were runners up. An insider said: "It could be that all of Rangers official records will be ordered to change so that the years when titles have been taken from them are removed." so an admin error is an unfair advantage????? don't give me the "we played players we couldn't afford" as the tax case is still to be decided. And anyway the tax case is not around tax evasion, its around improper application of rules. Not necessarily cheating. I thought he had to be one of the P & B trolls until I saw when he joined , deary me.This should never end these guys are comedy gold 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Can someone, preferably with a link, tell me if the club formerly known as Rangers FC are officially lquidated yet ? How many season tickets have this new company sold up to now. It's holiday season here and I could do with a few bookmarks while arguing with people who are convinced Sevco will win the CL in 5 years. Thanks in advance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Alright then, how's about this: f**k any club which relies on a partisan view of ancient history in a foreign land to attract financial support from inadequate members of society who need a sense of belonging to bolster their self-esteem and fill a gap in their pathetic lives. Better? Oh what about Berwick Rangers WRK ? ancient history in a foreign land an all that ! do we give special dispensation being a diddy team ? Where's there's controversy there's sure to be a Rangers at the bottom off it . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Diego De la Vega Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 So whats the script (excuse the pun) with Celtic and the use of the film tax loophole, is this a Follow Follow fantasy or have they somehow opened up a new can of worms and the other cheek is on its way out too? the follow followers seem to be getting excited about starting a CTC blog http://forum.followfollow.com/showthread.php?t=889691&page=2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 My favourite quote from the ZM thread: "And anyway the tax case is not around tax evasion, its around improper application of rules. Not necessarily cheating. " If improper application of the rules isn't cheating, what is it? With regards to the FTT, the EBT's , Etc The creditors' document issued by Duff and Phelps showed that RFC(IA) were into the Taxman for about £97million. Does this not suggest that they have accepted liability for the 'big Tax Case', ergo are guilty of disguising remuneration as benefits, ergo are guilty of dual payments (dual contracts)? - I think the answer is very obvious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidthebaw Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) Nae offence No8 but you can dress up the bit in bold all you like but it's not how it is remembered in Scots history.This was nothing other than the English and their sympathizers subduing a nation that wanted to be completely independent of England at all costs,but our king at the time couldn't care less as he seen a bigger throne down south and duly left creating a union the Scots neither needed or wanted ! Jacobite rebellion ?. I think your getting the union of the crown mixed up with the Treaty of Union of the parliaments. Initally after the union of crowns most of the nobility went with King James and their families saw it as an opportunity to get rich and consolidate their power in Scotland. to the regular scot it never made much of a difference in the day to day. During the '45 the British army consisted of englishs, scots(lowlander and highlander) and germans. Also what do you mean by scots history? Any serious work, by such as Professors Tom Devine, reflects the period using a variety of documented sources, you have not quoted your source. I've studied scottish history extensively and you are correct that the union was resented by the majority of scots but the '45 wasn't that popular for a variety of reasons e.g. religion, many people only wanted to restore the border not invade england and that many people saw that Charles Stuart wanted the UK throne and could not give a bugger about Scotland regaining her independance(He could not even be bothered to learn the languages of the majority of his subjects) I grew up with the'popular' version of the history but an examination of the facts reveals a more complex set of circumstances. Roll on 2014. Edited Apologies but I had nowhere else to post this. Appears to be no 'Refuting historical bollocks' thread Edited July 19, 2012 by Heidthebaw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 So whats the script (excuse the pun) with Celtic and the use of the film tax loophole, is this a Follow Follow fantasy or have they somehow opened up a new can of worms and the other cheek is on its way out too? the follow followers seem to be getting excited about starting a CTC blog http://forum.followf...t=889691&page=2 You'll need to cut and paste the contents as the link is asking for a log in dude. I believe it may possibly be linked to the Juhnino player we signed and apparently owned up about it and paid all the relevant tax due.Not much to shout about if it has been rectified at the time and not years later like Rangers with many many players being paid through it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnesTON Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 On ragers media they still can't understand why they are unseeded in the Scottish League Cup Draw !. Maybe it's because they are a new team . Also they list victims they want to pump rotten on their way to their first ever major title even though they apparently have plenty of them already ?????. I'm fucking confused on ragers media at times when I read it's their first ever but they already have won it umpteen times . http://forum.rangers...pic=232089&st=0 I see we were a popular choice. Its good when you can look forward to the excitement of the cup when you are stuck in the third. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I've studied scottish history extensively and you are correct that the union was resented by the majority of scots but the '45 wasn't that popular for a variety of reasons e.g. religion, many people only wanted to restore the border not invade england and that many people saw that Charles Stuart wanted the UK throne and could not give a bugger about Scotland regaining her independance(He could not even be bothered to learn the languages of the majority of his subjects) I grew up with the'popular' version of the history but an examination of the facts reveals a more complex set of circumstances. Roll on 2014. Thank fook someone with knowledge can lay this ugly mess to bed.Too many versions of history through the eyes of others and blah blah.Depends what sources you believe rather like the orcs on their websites really . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 With regards to the FTT, the EBT's , Etc The creditors' document issued by Duff and Phelps showed that RFC(IA) were into the Taxman for about £97million. Does this not suggest that they have accepted liability for the 'big Tax Case', ergo are guilty of disguising remuneration as benefits, ergo are guilty of dual payments (dual contracts)? - I think the answer is very obvious. Yup CVA had that figure. So in the eyes of Hector that's what is owed. These boys are also keen to forget that an appeal tends to follow a guilty verdict. Or as this is a civil matter, the balance of probabilities in Hector's view is that Rangers were operating the EBT's inappropriately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 From OM This has to stop and we all need to get our fingers out!!! We post on here but what else? Where is the fight back from our former players? What about the RST, Union Bears, RSA, The Assembly, Blue Order, the RFFF? Why has Ally McCoist not said anything? What about Malcolm Murray? I'm sick of this. I've written to the SPL and SFA and will write again. I've spent £s on calls to Talksport. I've e-mailed the editors of the Record, Sun, Scottish Daily Express, Herald and Evening Times requesting the opportunity for our Club to defend itself or be defended. I'll be e-mailing Ibrox for our Club to actually DO SOMETHING about this concerted campaign to remove titles from us. Same with our fans' groups. How sad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) Can someone, preferably with a link, tell me if the club formerly known as Rangers FC are officially lquidated yet ? How many season tickets have this new company sold up to now. It's holiday season here and I could do with a few bookmarks while arguing with people who are convinced Sevco will win the CL in 5 years. Thanks in advance. In answer to your first question, the CVA was refused on the 13th of June last month. HMRC employed BDO accountants to undertake the liquidation of RFC and do a thorough Forensic Investigation into the financial mismanagement at the club during the past few decades: http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18509619 Sevco 5088 would not be able to apply to change its name to The Rangers Football Club Ltd. until either the original company is fully dissolved, a process which can take about a year to complete, or the receivers give the go-ahead for the name change to take place. Companies House spokesperson Strathclyde Police's Fraud Squad are also investigating the club - Murray/Whyte changeover: http://local.stv.tv/...whyte-takeover/ Rangers crisis: Crown launches criminal investigation into Whyte takeover Due to both those investigations and the many other investigations into the club that are ongoing, by football authorities, etc, the liquidation process is expected to take longer than would be normal had their been no fraud and deception, cheating, etc, been going on for such a long period of time at the club. In answer to your second question, see the Official Rangers website: http://www.rangers.c...article/2518090 I can only assume that Sevco have yet to update the website because they have still not fulfilled the terms and conditions (various rules, regulations, legalities) that they are required to fulfill in order to be provided with an SFA licence to play in the SFL. Until they have a licence they cannot sell any tickets at all. SEASON TICKET UPDATEThe Club is disappointed it has been unable to provide season ticket holders with clarity on the arrangements for season ticket renewals. As you are aware, there is a meeting tomorrow with the SFL board and member clubs to discuss which division Rangers will play in next season. Following that meeting we hope to be in a position to provide greater clarity on season ticket renewals, pricing and payment processes - which will be communicated directly to season ticket holders. The Club would like to thank season ticket holders once again for their patience during this difficult period. Edited July 19, 2012 by Itwiznaeme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Leighton Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 From OM How sad Fool and his money etc... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Straight in from ragers media ? apparently a source on there through follow follow states that Charles Green will obtain an SFA licence tonight and the embargo will stand beginning from September 1st giving them till then to find players . Now CG's metal will be tested if he doesn't have any money to buy players ! is his hand being called ? or is it the usual Fritzel moment they seem to be getting used too on ragers websites ?. http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=232134 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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