cyderspaceman Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 From OM This has to stop and we all need to get our fingers out!!! We post on here but what else? Where is the fight back from our former players? What about the RST, Union Bears, RSA, The Assembly, Blue Order, the RFFF? Why has Ally McCoist not said anything? What about Malcolm Murray? I'm sick of this. I've written to the SPL and SFA and will write again. I've spent £s on calls to Talksport. I've e-mailed the editors of the Record, Sun, Scottish Daily Express, Herald and Evening Times requesting the opportunity for our Club to defend itself or be defended. I'll be e-mailing Ibrox for our Club to actually DO SOMETHING about this concerted campaign to remove titles from us. Same with our fans' groups. How sad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) Can someone, preferably with a link, tell me if the club formerly known as Rangers FC are officially lquidated yet ? How many season tickets have this new company sold up to now. It's holiday season here and I could do with a few bookmarks while arguing with people who are convinced Sevco will win the CL in 5 years. Thanks in advance. In answer to your first question, the CVA was refused on the 13th of June last month. HMRC employed BDO accountants to undertake the liquidation of RFC and do a thorough Forensic Investigation into the financial mismanagement at the club during the past few decades: http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18509619 Sevco 5088 would not be able to apply to change its name to The Rangers Football Club Ltd. until either the original company is fully dissolved, a process which can take about a year to complete, or the receivers give the go-ahead for the name change to take place. Companies House spokesperson Strathclyde Police's Fraud Squad are also investigating the club - Murray/Whyte changeover: http://local.stv.tv/...whyte-takeover/ Rangers crisis: Crown launches criminal investigation into Whyte takeover Due to both those investigations and the many other investigations into the club that are ongoing, by football authorities, etc, the liquidation process is expected to take longer than would be normal had their been no fraud and deception, cheating, etc, been going on for such a long period of time at the club. In answer to your second question, see the Official Rangers website: http://www.rangers.c...article/2518090 I can only assume that Sevco have yet to update the website because they have still not fulfilled the terms and conditions (various rules, regulations, legalities) that they are required to fulfill in order to be provided with an SFA licence to play in the SFL. Until they have a licence they cannot sell any tickets at all. SEASON TICKET UPDATEThe Club is disappointed it has been unable to provide season ticket holders with clarity on the arrangements for season ticket renewals. As you are aware, there is a meeting tomorrow with the SFL board and member clubs to discuss which division Rangers will play in next season. Following that meeting we hope to be in a position to provide greater clarity on season ticket renewals, pricing and payment processes - which will be communicated directly to season ticket holders. The Club would like to thank season ticket holders once again for their patience during this difficult period. Edited July 19, 2012 by Itwiznaeme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Leighton Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 From OM How sad Fool and his money etc... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Straight in from ragers media ? apparently a source on there through follow follow states that Charles Green will obtain an SFA licence tonight and the embargo will stand beginning from September 1st giving them till then to find players . Now CG's metal will be tested if he doesn't have any money to buy players ! is his hand being called ? or is it the usual Fritzel moment they seem to be getting used too on ragers websites ?. http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=232134 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killingfloorman Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Straight in from ragers media ? apparently a source on there through follow follow states that Charles Green will obtain an SFA licence tonight and the embargo will stand beginning from September 1st giving them till then to find players . Now CG's metal will be tested if he doesn't have any money to buy players ! is his hand being called ? or is it the usual Fritzel moment they seem to be getting used too on ragers websites ?. http://forum.rangers...howtopic=232134 Should give them enough time to get in the 5 Euro championship targets (Van Persie, Caroll, etc.) plus Riquelme has just turned down Flamengo so he's free, and then who else? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinnesTON Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Had a wee look on a blue site (VGB) last night and they asked me if I'd be willing to take part in an armed defence of the realm during the registration process. Pure mental, byraway. What is this because of th reduction in the Army ? If only some people paid their taxes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Players pay taxes, not employers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdTheDuck Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Players pay taxes, not employers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Straight in from ragers media ? apparently a source on there through follow follow states that Charles Green will obtain an SFA licence tonight and the embargo will stand beginning from September 1st giving them till then to find players . Now CG's metal will be tested if he doesn't have any money to buy players ! is his hand being called ? or is it the usual Fritzel moment they seem to be getting used too on ragers websites ?. http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=232134 So they're allowed to sign players up until the point where they would be severely restricted in the players they could sign? What about the £160,000 fine, is that going to be at a fiver a week? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarreZ Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Found a good post on RM. Whats been your own personal favourite moment? Motherwell Born Billionaire arrives Whyte being applauded into his seat by the blue order Front loaded warchest Out to Malmo in CL Qualifier Out to Maribor in EL Qualifier Out to Falkirk in League Cup BBC Documentary on Whyte proves he's a shyster h*** protest at BBC for saying he's a shyster League's over comment from Jelavic Losing a 12 point lead to Timmy before new year Loving Cup with CW - "To the Queen" Selling Jelavic for a fraction of his value Signing Celik Seeing Celik play football Rangers file for Administration HMRC forcing them into Administration CW speech to a massively upset h** crowd of 34 people Revelation of Non-Tax payments "The Big Hoose Must Stay open" Hurting h*** EVERYWHERE Retiring number 12 for the fans The appointment of Duff & Phelps Realising you recognise that guy at D&P because he turned up with CW 6 months earlier Attempting to sign Cousin while in administration Celik effs off Wylde effs off The player's taking a wage cut The initial Creditor’s list Losing their place in Europe to Motherwell The fake pledges from fake h** fans from their fake massive support The RFFF choosing to pay Dunfermline but not Dundee Utd - well played The RFFF having to pay for Weir's retirement gift The RFFF paying to re-lay a pitch which might never be used The clown The Fighting Fund in general The Blue Knights The Bill Ng bid The Bill Miller "Incubator" Quantum Brian Kennedy Quantum Paul Murray Quantum "Yank go home" from the hordes The Chick v Jabba catfight The transfer embargo The transfer embargo upheld "Who are these people?" from Fat Sally The h*** threaten to burn down the Raith Rover's stands Alex Thomson and his general hunskelping Jelly and Ice Cream The Grim Reaper banner Lennon lifts the League trophy The inception of the "Pacific Shelf Theory" We Don't Do Walking Away The "We Don't Do Walking Away" song Charles Green enters the story Red Card to Liquidation - good plan Dave King tells them not to buy season books - good plan Green says if CVA not agreed Rangers will lose their History CVA not agreed HMRC Skelp them into oblivion The BBC Documentary Part 2 The porn star Prince Albert of Monaco Joanna Lumley The EBT 53 revealed Walter tries to buy assets an hour after they're sold Walter Walks Away The Hampden protest Unable to use Rangers name for newco until oldco is liquidated All Scottish Football Fans turn on the h*** for their arrogance Turnbull Hutton Turnbull Hutton (deserves to be in twice!) Newco try to bypass all leagues and go straight into SPL Newco told to get to eff with their SPL application The presentation to the SPL revealed Offering to take the transfer ban at the same time as trying to sign Black Newco try to bypass all leagues and go straight into SFL1 Newco told to get to eff with their SFL1 application Newco put into SFL3 Return of the number 12 shirt Booted out by Subbuteo Booted out by Fifa 13 (maybe!) Bomber Brown's rant on the steps of Tesco "Show us the title deeds" Bomber Brown on the radio "Show us the title deeds" Bomber Brown on sky sports "Show us the title deeds" Bomber Brown meeting with the RFFF Everything Gordon Smith has said past, present and future Chris McLaughlin reveals Ally is not wearing a tie Naisy and Whitty Walk Away Everybody Walks Away Broadfoot Stays The hurting from Jabba The hurting from Chick The hurting from Hately h*** enter the Ramsden Cup Still no license to play football h*** compared to Kit-Kats The inevitable reply - "tommy burns dying was fun" Lovely bunch. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Players pay taxes, not employers. Admit it, you haven't read the previous 3,027 pages have you ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Players pay taxes, not employers. Did you pop in here from RagersMedia? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Diego De la Vega Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) The follow followers have found a list of Players and directors that were paying in to film distribution tax break scheme and are freaming themselves at the thought of Celtic Paying into this on behalf of the players not unlike the ebt scheme, can you imagine the shitstorm that would create!? Please have a look before it gets chopped Re: EBT Thread is this picture real ? This is the film industry tax avoidance scheme it was investigated by the BBC recently totally dodgy if not strictly illegal. Time have no basis to take moral high ground if they were being paid via these schemes. Re: EBT Thread is this picture real ? this wasnt EBTs this was a legal tax loophole where investing in film companies means you could avoid tax its since been closed as a loophole ...shame right enuff Edited July 19, 2012 by Don Diego De la Vega 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLip69 Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Found a good post on RM. Whats been your own personal favourite moment? Motherwell Born Billionaire arrives Whyte being applauded into his seat by the blue order Front loaded warchest Out to Malmo in CL Qualifier Out to Maribor in EL Qualifier Out to Falkirk in League Cup BBC Documentary on Whyte proves he's a shyster h*** protest at BBC for saying he's a shyster League's over comment from Jelavic Losing a 12 point lead to Timmy before new year Loving Cup with CW - "To the Queen" Selling Jelavic for a fraction of his value Signing Celik Seeing Celik play football Rangers file for Administration HMRC forcing them into Administration CW speech to a massively upset h** crowd of 34 people Revelation of Non-Tax payments "The Big Hoose Must Stay open" Hurting h*** EVERYWHERE Retiring number 12 for the fans The appointment of Duff & Phelps Realising you recognise that guy at D&P because he turned up with CW 6 months earlier Attempting to sign Cousin while in administration Celik effs off Wylde effs off The player's taking a wage cut The initial Creditor's list Losing their place in Europe to Motherwell The fake pledges from fake h** fans from their fake massive support The RFFF choosing to pay Dunfermline but not Dundee Utd - well played The RFFF having to pay for Weir's retirement gift The RFFF paying to re-lay a pitch which might never be used The clown The Fighting Fund in general The Blue Knights The Bill Ng bid The Bill Miller "Incubator" Quantum Brian Kennedy Quantum Paul Murray Quantum "Yank go home" from the hordes The Chick v Jabba catfight The transfer embargo The transfer embargo upheld "Who are these people?" from Fat Sally The h*** threaten to burn down the Raith Rover's stands Alex Thomson and his general hunskelping Jelly and Ice Cream The Grim Reaper banner Lennon lifts the League trophy The inception of the "Pacific Shelf Theory" We Don't Do Walking Away The "We Don't Do Walking Away" song Charles Green enters the story Red Card to Liquidation - good plan Dave King tells them not to buy season books - good plan Green says if CVA not agreed Rangers will lose their History CVA not agreed HMRC Skelp them into oblivion The BBC Documentary Part 2 The porn star Prince Albert of Monaco Joanna Lumley The EBT 53 revealed Walter tries to buy assets an hour after they're sold Walter Walks Away The Hampden protest Unable to use Rangers name for newco until oldco is liquidated All Scottish Football Fans turn on the h*** for their arrogance Turnbull Hutton Turnbull Hutton (deserves to be in twice!) Newco try to bypass all leagues and go straight into SPL Newco told to get to eff with their SPL application The presentation to the SPL revealed Offering to take the transfer ban at the same time as trying to sign Black Newco try to bypass all leagues and go straight into SFL1 Newco told to get to eff with their SFL1 application Newco put into SFL3 Return of the number 12 shirt Booted out by Subbuteo Booted out by Fifa 13 (maybe!) Bomber Brown's rant on the steps of Tesco "Show us the title deeds" Bomber Brown on the radio "Show us the title deeds" Bomber Brown on sky sports "Show us the title deeds" Bomber Brown meeting with the RFFF Everything Gordon Smith has said past, present and future Chris McLaughlin reveals Ally is not wearing a tie Naisy and Whitty Walk Away Everybody Walks Away Broadfoot Stays The hurting from Jabba The hurting from Chick The hurting from Hately h*** enter the Ramsden Cup Still no license to play football h*** compared to Kit-Kats The inevitable reply - "tommy burns dying was fun" Lovely bunch. Belter! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellbhoy Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 So they're allowed to sign players up until the point where they would be severely restricted in the players they could sign? What about the £160,000 fine, is that going to be at a fiver a week? Granny he probably offered a cheeky little CVA for the fines and if this is true then I foresee many orcs losing the plot by missing out signing mediocre and average players,because any player signing for them will know they are cannon fodder to be discarded at a moments notice if they get successive promotions.Possibly play for the newco with a slightly better wage or sign to a club that will want you for years to come ? no brainer if your in the lower leagues me thinks. I think they will struggle to sign any sort of quality players with the dark cloud still hanging over the newco IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Why would the Celtic Supporters Association say that kind of rubbish? Maybe you should try reading articles before spouting your nonsense, to think a lot of Celtic fans are planning to take in Thistle v Falkirk on 'sell out saturday', if all thistle fans have your attitude I hope they change their minds. Stay in the f**king home end then Don't drag us back to the 17th century 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itwiznaeme Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) You'll need to cut and paste the contents as the link is asking for a log in dude. I believe it may possibly be linked to the Juhnino player we signed and apparently owned up about it and paid all the relevant tax due.Not much to shout about if it has been rectified at the time and not years later like Rangers with many many players being paid through it. I recall reading a few years ago that Juninho's payment was a severance payment after he had left them, that it was not payed while he was playing and not part of his contract. It said Celtic had settled with the taxman immediately when they were informed of the potential tax liability. Edited July 19, 2012 by Itwiznaeme 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 please tell me thats the grim reaper on the beith logo on the poster for the game! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huistrinho Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 (edited) Possibly play for the newco with a slightly better wage or sign to a club that will want you for years to come ? no brainer if your in the lower leagues me thinks. I think they will struggle to sign any sort of quality players with the dark cloud still hanging over the newco IMO. I'm not so sure about the first part; a one or two season contract with plenty of TV exposure that you wouldn't otherwise get could be quite attractive. Assuming the transfer embargo stands, the club should, at best, be trying to sign players who can secure D2 promotion. Bringing in anyone better than that is just pissing money away (that probably isn't there in the first place...) Edited July 19, 2012 by Huistrinho 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarreZ Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Players pay taxes, not employers. I wish I had found this out earlier, as an employer Ive stupidly been paying contributions each month to my staff, what an idiot I am! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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