GreenockRover Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 King Interview in today's Herald. ''I think the minimum - if we get lucky - is £30m and we will probably need £50m,'' he said. ''That would be to compete with Celtic. The Rangers' strategy should be a simple thing and I have discussed this with institutions. It is this: every year we have to compete with Celtic. That is the business plan.'' Oh my Fk! ''To me, Rangers is about spending money, not making money.'' ''I actually believe whatever I invest in Rangers I will never get back but I am happy to do it.'' ''There is a business plan among Rangers directors and shareholders - who are not Rangers fans at the moment - that they can take £20m (in revenue) and put £19m out (in costs) and they will make profit.'' (seems fair) '' We would not recognise that Rangers as the way they should be. Rangers won't fail but they could succeed financially and be a small club. To me this is a personal failure because I expect Rangers to be the Rangers I know.'' This guy should certainly be talking to Institutions. He is fkg radio rental. Staggering. Absolutely harshly crazy. ....and, quite frankly, openly bringing disrepute to the game in Scotland. The silence from the GFA is.............predictable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenolly Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 King Interview in today's Herald. ''I think the minimum - if we get lucky - is £30m and we will probably need £50m,'' he said. ''That would be to compete with Celtic. The Rangers' strategy should be a simple thing and I have discussed this with institutions. It is this: every year we have to compete with Celtic. That is the business plan.'' With losing £1 million a month that £50 million will keep the Gers going for 4 years, Sally will need around £20 million next year just to win the Championship 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz FFC Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Isn't there somewhere I can sign up to Kings get rich quick scheme? I don't like to miss an opportunity to make a quick buck and we all know that this club/schem is a sure fire winner. Edited March 25, 2014 by Gaz FFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 'Dave King' only mentioned 9 times in that diatribe. The Onion of Fannies are letting standards slip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Are they deid yet? Edited March 25, 2014 by Fotbawmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Gie us 30 mill, then we'll live within our means. This is a whole new level of nuts, even by Sevco standards. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Don Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 We Are Total Prats 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingrodent Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Would Accept Thirty Pounds 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramour Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 2 years of they are all a bunch of spivs and you you can't trust them, now they are preferable... Tbf you probably would need something close to the amounts mentioned to fix the mess left by Charlie and chums, some of the deals they put in place were crazy/crooked. Tbf pt2 - I really don't think that you would need to spend spend spend to compete with them greenyins, a decent centre half, another striker and maybe another right back and you'd have a team capable of competing (given a bit of luck and proper manager). Far more important is getting in place proper scouting/coaching/systems and working towards improving players rather than buying success. with the current board it would be loan after loan after loan after loan after loan, if King has the funds to avoid that scenario then ... I think what's truly sad here (for Rankgers fans, at least) is that the roll-call of potential owners and/or investors is so replete with dubious characters (to say the least) that anyone with an unconstituted promise of money is seen as a real saviour, even despite the lessons of recent history, and moreso one who is entirely complicit in the downfall of the original Rangers Football Club. The guy is as mad as a clown's cock. In fact, his patter is seriously reminiscent of a certain ex-Ukio Bankos owner/taxi driving entrepreneur and, were it not for the surreal hilarity of the past couple of years for the Govan mob, you would be utterly baffled as to why any 'informed' fan would welcome, nay invite, investment from this man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Gie us 30 mill, then we'll live within our means. This is a whole new level of nuts, even by Sevco standards. Shit, that fans' statement wasn't real, was it? I actually mean it - was it not a spoof? I no longer understand anything - anything at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 "The Union of Fans (UoF) is delighted that Dave King has publicly stated his impressive plans for Rangers via a number of newspaper interviews. His vision for the club is extremely welcome as is the personal financial commitment he is willing to make. Like all Rangers fans, Dave King and UoF want to see the club back operating to high standards on and off the pitch and in the boardroom. We firmly believe that the involvement of Dave King is the best chance of those standards being attained in the short, medium and long term.It was clear from our discussions with him last week that the £30m+ Mr King is willing to invest is crucial to take the club back to a competitive level and improve the infrastructure and facilities. The club has been neglected, that cannot continue. Only once this investment has been made will Rangers be able to live within its means, something we all want for the longer term future. Until then Dave King has made it clear he will do what is necessary to get Rangers back to where we belong and where we can be self-sustainable.It is also important that Dave King chose to make his views public to the widest possible range of Rangers supporters by conducting interviews with four different newspapers with a combined readership of over 2M people. There can no longer be any criticism of him only speaking privately to supporters groups, though he has pledged to continue that important dialogue in order that the Union of Fans can keep people updated on events.We would now ask the board to indicate publicly, as a matter of urgency, whether they are prepared to accept Dave King’s offer of massive investment. The ball is firmly with the Rangers PLC board, in particular with Chief Executive Officer, Graham Wallace and Chairman, David Somers. Dave King has put a figure on what Rangers need and has shown his commitment to, and ambition for, the club he has supported all his life. Do Mr Wallace and Mr Somers agree with his figures and if they do, how do they propose to raise this large sum of money without Dave King?These are extremely serious corporate matters, therefore they are matters for the PLC board and not for any small, minority shareholder who is not a member of that board and who has no such high level corporate experience. The corporate reputations of Mr Wallace and Mr Somers now rest on their next move.We also note with dismay that Rangers director Sandy Easdale is continuing to pursue what we consider to be a confrontational and frivolous course of legal action against Sons of Struth. We would ask him to remember what it means to be a Rangers director and act accordingly if he wishes to enjoy the privileges of that position." What do they mean when they say that the UoF want to see the club back operating to high standards off the pitch and in the boardroom? Is this really it? Dave Kings master plan that we have been waiting on the edge of our seats for? His 4 year plan should he get control of Rangers, and he only needs 50m to do it. Am I missing something? What exactly is his plan? Beat Celtic, that's it. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paramour Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Shit, that fans' statement wasn't real, was it? I actually mean it - was it not a spoof? I no longer understand anything - anything at all. Culture is important at a club. Sevco's culture, similar to Rangers before them, was that success - even if only relative success - was everything, in order to retain their sense of self-supremacy, no matter what the cost. That's why sub-militant groups such as these are flashing their knickers at anyone who says they have the money to provide that success once more. This culture is unlikely to ever change or adapt to a more progressive structure which guarantees longevity at the expense of a trophy every year, so hell mend them I say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) That's about it mate, giz us loads a money and we will pure beat Celtic again...WATP...What's the McMurdo camp saying?Is no one questioning this nut case? ETA I mean King Nutcase Edited March 25, 2014 by dave.j 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave.j Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Not sure, King has the militants on side so I'd say anyone making a statement against these scumbags needs to take their time, think about it and be careful/.. Imagine knowing King was your last hope. He who wouldn't leave town until his master plan was ready, every last detail in place. And you opened this mornings papers to that pile of shit! It's like thinking you had Blackadder, then finding out you have Baldrick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache Don Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 What do they mean when they say that the UoF want to see the club back operating to high standards off the pitch and in the boardroom? Is this really it? Dave Kings master plan that we have been waiting on the edge of our seats for? His 4 year plan should he get control of Rangers, and he only needs 50m to do it. Am I missing something? What exactly is his plan? Beat Celtic, that's it. Well yes, that is it according to the man himself, from today's interview with King by The Herald;- ''The Rangers' strategy should be a simple thing - and I've discussed this with institutions - It is this:- Every year we have to compete with Celtic. That is the business plan.'' Did he really have the brass neck to take that to financial institutions in an attempt to raise investment. Jeez. Fkg mentalist IMO and most definitely should not be allowed to hold a position of power at any football club, even the only one that actually deserves him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) Culture is important at a club. Sevco's culture, similar to Rangers before them, was that success - even if only relative success - was everything, in order to retain their sense of self-supremacy, no matter what the cost. That's why sub-militant groups such as these are flashing their knickers at anyone who says they have the money to provide that success once more. This culture is unlikely to ever change or adapt to a more progressive structure which guarantees longevity at the expense of a trophy every year, so hell mend them I say. Anyone whose <40 has been brought up with constant success, achieved by someone (who appears to be) reaching deep into their pocket and lavishing money on the club. Sadly, even under DK that's not gonna happen. I can't see them sticking around for long, as they struggle to compete with the likes of Aberdeen. Let alone Celtic. Edited March 25, 2014 by Fotbawmad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) Right, it's a new day. I've sat down and again read the King comments and the UoF response. Seriously, are they genuine? Nothing in this entire saga captures what is wrong with Rangers quite as well as these two sources. King with his talk of having no interest in being sustainable, only in challenging Celtic, comes across as someone who has genuinely endured some kind of trauma, resulting in him 'losing it'. That the fans' group doesn't immediately back off from his noises though, and instead rushes to embrace them is absolutely incredible. There is no greater proof that Rangers cannot and indeed will not be allowed to operate as a football club, aspiring to do the best it can afford. They must dominate, or they simply cannot be. 2012 was only two years ago, but this is a club that would literally rather die than lose football matches. When you read the response of fans' groups, it's impossible to find sympathy. Are there any supporters out there that are scared by what King is saying? It's a measure of how desperate things have got, that McMurdo sounds almost reasonable. Edited March 26, 2014 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BinoBalls Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 This reminds of when there was post-liquidation talk of placing newco Rangers in the SPL but with a transfer ban in place. The thought of being "uncompetitive" (ie losing more games than they won) was so unpalatable that there was a sudden clamour of volunteering to to go to SFL3. There are many Rangers fans for whom winning is all that matters. I am sure a sizeable minority will be concerned though, but the ones with the massive entitlement attitude seem to be the ones with the loudest voices. The fans moan when the board overspends, then a new chief exec comes in to finally talk some sense, then soon enough the fans want him bullied into overspending again. It will be funny watching their (now sky high) expectations being dashed if it doesn't come off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 It was clear from our discussions with him last week that the £30m+ Mr King is willing to invest is crucial to take the club back to a competitive level and improve the infrastructure and facilities. The club has been neglected, that cannot continue. Only once this investment has been made will Rangers be able to live within its means, something we all want for the longer term future. Until then Dave King has made it clear he will do what is necessary to get Rangers back to where we belong and where we can be self-sustainable. Clearly do not know the meaning of self sustainable. King has already stated several times that the £50m is a one off input, and the club would need to be subsidised massively on a yearly basis thereafter. We would now ask the board to indicate publicly, as a matter of urgency, whether they are prepared to accept Dave King’s offer of massive investment. King has made no such offer. He has stated what is needed and that he would consider contributing, depending on the circumstances. Until he tells the world exactly what those circumstances are, Kings input can only be considered as posturing and pot stirring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Right, it's a new day. I've sat down and again read the King comments and the UoF response. Seriously, are they genuine? Nothing in this entire saga captures what is wrong with Rangers quite as well as these two sources. King with his talk of having no interest in being sustainable, only in challenging Celtic, comes across as someone who has genuinely endured some kind of trauma, resulting in him 'losing it'. That the fans' group doesn't immediately back of from his noises though, and instead rushes to embrace them is absolutely incredible. There is no greater proof that Rangers cannot and indeed will not be allowed to operate as a football club, aspiring to do the best it can afford. They must dominate, or they simply cannot be. 2012 was only two years ago, but this is a club that would literally rather die than lose football matches. When you read the response of fans' groups, it's impossible to find sympathy. Are there any supporters out there that are scared by what King is saying? It's a measure of how desperate things have got, that McMurdo sounds almost reasonable. 20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing. Each preceding owner seems more reasonable than the latest saviour. Your post is bang on the money re. Dave Glib and his 'strategy' to get RaPeepul back to the top of the heap. When is a scribbler from the SMSM going to grow a pair and ask the same questions though ? (Rhetorical question btw..) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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