ForzaDundee Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 (edited) A bit irrelevant surely unless we were restricted to watching / listening to programmes solely produced in Scotland. That's not the point I'm makes. Take the example of the BBC's national radio stations (Radio 1, 2, 5Live etc.), all are national and therefore rightly paid for by everyone but all the thousands of jobs that are supported by them are based around London. Same goes for the majority of national TV shows. Surely they could spread it about a bit so all areas of the country benefit from the BBCs policy of making British-funded shows in Britain because just now at disproportionate amount of them are made in England. It's petty but at the end of the day it's all of us who are getting shafted by it. Edited July 2, 2012 by ForzaDundee 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 A bit irrelevant surely unless we were restricted to watching / listening to programmes solely produced in Scotland. Instead, almost half of what we contribute goes towards producing home grown programmes that are insignificant compared to the phenomenal overall output of what we get for our licence fee (radio, tv, website, iplayer etc). SNP TV will be like the Outer Hebrides Broadcasting Corporation. SNP TV? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GirondistNYC Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 The whole SPL TV idea seems insanely risky to me. The nice thing about big evil broadcasters is a) they give you the certainty of a multiyear deal so clubs have a broad idea of what they can spend and b) they provide the infrastructure, hiring the pundits and providing the cameras. SPL TV would mean the same Scottish football authorities we have been lambasting for incompetence for months would have to develop a keen business acumen in an entirely new field overnight. And if the hotshot team of experienced TV executives and marketing guys they hired (at great expense) got it wrong the clubs would take an immediate hit. Sky and it's ilk can in a sense subsidize football because they expect that people who subscribe "just for football" will end up watching other stuff one they're in the door, increasing viewership and thus ad revenue. But if you are a stand alone channel that doesn't apply - if it turns out the average Aberdeen supporter would rather watch the home games live and prefers watching Man City play Liverpool to Celtic v. St. Johnstone then your ad revenue will go down to reflect this in short order. Meanwhile, you are stuck with the fixed costs of multiple TV crews and whichever members of the succulent lamb brigade you've paid to sit on the couches. Do you want to sign your captain to a multi-year contract? Better hope that viewing figures don't crater next season, because that will lead to immediate declines in advertising and subscription revenues that will hit your clubs bottom line directly. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 They show English top division highlights.(And that's all now... no League Cup/Championship/etc. now, just MotD + final tournaments). The BBC will continue to show English League highlights (from all competitions). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quentin Taranbino Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Stirling Albion join the clubs that will be saying no to the division 1 proposal after a vote by Trust members http://www.stirlingalbionfc.co.uk/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 The BBC will continue to show English League highlights (from all competitions). http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/may/21/the-football-league-show-bbc1 correct 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Northerner Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 On the subject of the NFL they have a very interesting TV concept called REDZONE. For those who don't know, they basically try and show all the games at the same time. How it works is they show action from one game, as soon as a teams scores or the posesion is lost, they switch to another game where a team looks like scoring, and then again and so forth. Its compelling TV. How does this relate to Scottish Football? As far as I know no Football league has a package like this. A few years back I was in Cologne and on the Saturday at 3 pm they started cycling through the games for 5 minutes or so. No guarantee of goals but you got a decent feel for each of the matches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Leighton Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 SNP TV? Would an independent Scotland remain part of the British Broadcasting Corporation? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 The SPL has worked stunningly well and has demonstrated real financial stability, I see no reason why SPL TV wouldn't be just as successful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non OF fan Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Originally posted by James Traynor For months now there has been a savagery. The game has been ripping itself apart all in the name of fair play. Or was it sporting integrity? Forgive me, the reasons for the crisis that threatens to destroy Scottish football have been lost somewhere in the lust to tear and shred one club. It's as though a century of hatred and probably jealousy have erupted. And the handful of reasoned souls left in the game are fighting a losing battle to cap the flow. No, sorry Jim, forgive me. Talk about trying to muddy the waters over what is, at its core a pretty simple issue. Don't go pretending that this suddenly isn't about fair play or sporting integrity, or even just a tiny wee shred of balance in a game which has been devoid of it for decades. The reasons for the crisis haven't been remotely lost on most, although sadly they appear to have been lost on you in your hunt for a few more readers on your sinking ship. For what it's worth, the reasons are as follows: - Rangers used dodgy practices over many years to pay for players they couldn't afford otherwise, in the process gathering a whole host of league and cup wins - Rangers manipulated and cajoled an open-arms willing press to turn a blind eye to their over-powerful influence on the game - Rangers played fast and loose with other people's money, leaving a trail of creditors in their wake in their pursuit of superiority in Scottish football The BBC investigation, the SFA, UEFA, the courts - at every turn there is on guilty party - Rangers and those associated with them. And pretending to be in a handful of reasoned souls doesn't cut it any more Mr Traynor - everyone knows you were bought in the succulent lamb culture by Mr Murray and his cohorts, and given that your opinion seems to change with the weather most of us will have a little more respect for those who've proven they're capable of taking a more impartial look at events. The Scottish papers, least of all the Record, shouldn't be attempting to take any kind of moral high ground here, they should be hanging their heads in shame. They've been caught out and should be quietly licking their wounds and learning lessons, not stumbling down the same old tired road with worthless words from corrupted men who are long past their sell-by date. And the one thing which Traynor and his ilk, along with all those angry Rangers fans, conveniently fail to ask when they talk about a witch hunt is this: just what is it about Rangers Football Club that has elicited such a response from so many people at so many football clubs all across Scotland? Are we all wrong? Sorry Jim, but just because you have to talk about an issue every day doesn't mean the reasons for it have become clouded, it simply means you've become jaded, lost your way, become too accustomed to the succulent lamb, become rattled by the plummeting readership figures which make you more and more of an obsolete irrelevance in Scottish sport. Simple facts, just in case you're struggling for them: - Rangers as we knew them are gone. A new company may well come along and call itself a version of Rangers. That's fine, I have no issue with that. But they ought to be given the same treatment as everyone else. If you didn't shed tears for Clydebank and Gretna forgive us for being a little suspicious of your hollow care for the game now. Football will always be skewed by competing agendas, by the lust for money and reward, by small men feeling important in expensive blazers and padded seats, by hangers-on, wannabees and never weres. But let's at least make some kind of attempt and making it a wee bit fair along the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 As I've just pointed out: BBC shows Scottish top division highlights, 4 League Cup ties, 8 Scottish Cup ties, 2 SFL play-off final ties, 1/2 Challenge Cup ties, 1 Junior Cup tie, Scotland away games and Scotland Womens games, and even 2 Womens CL games recently. They show English top division highlights. (And that's all now... no League Cup/Championship/etc. now, just MotD + final tournaments). Are we really being short-changed there?!?! These in bold were shown by BBC ALBA which appeals to only a minority who can understand gaelic BBC Alba is only shown in scotland on virgin media and freeview, as for sky,I couldn't say but would think it was national on that medium 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 alex thomson @alextomo#c4news tomorrow story on interests, conflicts, Campbell Ogilvie, Donald Findlay and Jim Ballantyne - Airdrie, Cowdenbeath, Hearts - and RFC Expand Reply Retweet Favorite could be worth watching Hearts and Ogilvie in the same sentence ? EBT's at Tynecastle ? Uh. oh.................. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Saint Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 This might seem far-fetched but I wonder if Bomber Brown has inadvertently rumbled Green and H/D. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 SPL TV would probably feature a panel of McCoist, Billy Dodds and Jim Traynor. Hosted By Chic Young. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Leighton Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 That's not the point I'm makes. Take the example of the BBC's national radio stations (Radio 1, 2, 5Live etc.), all are national and therefore rightly paid for by everyone but all the thousands of jobs that are supported by them are based around London. Same goes for the majority of national TV shows. Surely they could spread it about a bit so all areas of the country benefit from the BBCs policy of making British-funded shows in Britain because just now at disproportionate amount of them are made in England. It's petty but at the end of the day it's all of us who are getting shafted by it. Well that's not correct. A lot of programming was decentralised to Salford for a start, including BBC Breakfast and Radio 5 Live. The Weakest Link was filmed (at least some of the time) in Glasgow. Mrs Browns Boys, not a Scottish comedy per se, is filmed in Glasgow. The bulk of programmes produced in Scotland though are for Alba, Radio Scotland and regional tv variations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I've watched quite a few games On BBC Alba and not having a clue what the commentator is saying makes for nice, easy on the ears listening :-) actually it was great, very good coverage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyarabnuts Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I've watched quite a few games On BBC Alba and not having a clue what the commentator is saying makes for nice, easy on the ears listening :-) actually it was great, very good coverage. yeah, would agree to that , it was fun trying to work out what the gael for corner kick or penalty is 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastspider Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 They had two games on over here live yesterday. The evening game was Viking Stavanger v Rosenborg 1-4 The earlier game was Haugesund v Tromso 1-1 . That kicked off at the same time as all the other games. Tv2 covered the game while their version of soccer saturday covered the other games kicking off at the same time. For whatever reason Phil Thompson also works for norwegian tv (f**k knows why they would have him) Despite Viking and Rosenborg being arguably the two biggest teams the stadium wasn't that busy, or at least didn't appear to be. Checked the Viking website they give attendance as 10059 ground holds 16300, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 Brechin will refrain from issuing any public comment until after the meeting Statement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Leighton Posted July 2, 2012 Share Posted July 2, 2012 I've watched quite a few games On BBC Alba and not having a clue what the commentator is saying makes for nice, easy on the ears listening :-) actually it was great, very good coverage. Yes, there is something in that. For example, the Rai 2 coverage of the stunningly scenic Strade Bianche cycling race is on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhFiPffEZsM and while I don't speak Italian, the commentary is very listenable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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