RedRob72 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 (edited) If theyre ruled illegal...yes They were not Illegal, both clubs were required to make adjusted payments back to HMRC. Without wishing to go over old ground yet again, our own tribunal also ruled (on 22nd Nov 2012) that the EBT scheme operated at RFC was not illegal. Yes the club was clearly in a financial mess but it hadn't done anything illegal. Imagine how many other clubs would be in the dock, if title stripping was based solely on anything illegal that had happened within the club? Edited August 11, 2015 by RedRob72 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Should Arsenal and Chelsea be stripped of the trophies/titles they won whilst using EBTs ? The English clubs- including Arsenal and Chelsea - got round the table with HMRC, fessed up, worked out a deal and moved on.David Murray did a long campaign of obstruction and WATP non-co-operation which killed your Old 1872 club..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 The English clubs- including Arsenal and Chelsea - got round the table with HMRC, fessed up, worked out a deal and moved on.David Murray did a long campaign of obstruction and WATP non-co-operation which killed your Old 1872 club..... They could afford the negotiated payments, we weren't in a position to that and we paid the ultimate price for that with the club going under. The club did not do anything illegal however. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRuffian Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Did you miss RangersFC1872 dying in 2012? If you track back through the thread, I'm sure you'll see some mention of it. 5 or 6 of that club's titles should have immediately been stripped after the EBT / side letter / dual contract cheating. The club that you now support and who don't have any titles are Rangers 2012, formerly Sevco 5088, who have just started their 4th season in existence. Can I count you as enlightened now? Only if we can count you as a boring, inane, slavering c*nt. Your patter is rotten and you wind up nobody but yourself. You'll end up taking years off your life at this rate. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 They were not Illegal, both clubs were required to make adjusted payments back to HMRC. Without wishing to go over old ground yet again, our own tribunal also ruled (on 22nd Nov 2012) that the EBT scheme operated at RFC was not illegal. Yes the club was clearly in a financial mess but it hadn't done anything illegal. Imagine how many other clubs would be in the dock, if title stripping was based solely on anything illegal that had happened within the club? Legal, Illegal, Schmillegal......... Side letters, dual contracts, non-disclosure to the FOOTBALL authorities mean that Old Dead, Buried and Having Their Scabby Grave Gleefully Danced Upon by Anyone with a Scintilla of Sporting Integrity FC , were contravening the rules set down by those FOOTBALL authorities. I believe the sanction for contravening FOOTBALL rules is expulsion and results expunged... ask any lower league side who have oversightedly misplaced a comma in a player registration contract... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solo.bali Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 last news http://goo.gl/keT51U 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 They could afford the negotiated payments, we weren't in a position to that and we paid the ultimate price for that with the club going under. . The club did not do anything illegal however. Boo f'ing hoo.....DeadClub were 'winning' titles that they couldn't afford..... but thanks for admitting my highlighted part of your post..... Every day at least one bear somewhere accepts the facts... 499,999,999 to go.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever_blue Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Ken is a slavering mess 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
energyzone Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Anyone else burst out laughing at EZs ott 'won't somebody think of the children' type post...... Apologist for terrorists IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Fitlike Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Ken is a slavering mess I will be later on - an opportunity to rant at both Dundee teams on TV, while supping some bottled real ales.. Apparently the balance of power on Tayside is shifting. Interesting times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 They could afford the negotiated payments, we weren't in a position to that and we paid the ultimate price for that with the club going under. The club did not do anything illegal however. HMRC claimed otherwise, the tax tribunal agreed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Apologist for terrorists IMO I'm a right scoundrel so I am. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanderlei Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Sevco mutants really do out... stupid, bigot, whatabout, threaten, paranoia, head buried in the sand, deflect and offend the zoomers in our support and that's hard... Their on line idiot count judging just by this section of the forum alone must be at least five ta one ... Rising with every new alias Vicky the Viking, No8, tedi fivestars and the superstar AWRA bring to the forum. Edit... exited liquidation, warchest, Dave King.. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik's tongue Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I'm a right fanny so I am. So's Vicki. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Legal, Illegal, Schmillegal......... Side letters, dual contracts, non-disclosure to the FOOTBALL authorities mean that Old Dead, Buried and Having Their Scabby Grave Gleefully Danced Upon by Anyone with a Scintilla of Sporting Integrity FC , were contravening the rules set down by those FOOTBALL authorities. I believe the sanction for contravening FOOTBALL rules is expulsion and results expunged... ask any lower league side who have oversightedly misplaced a comma in a player registration contract... Indeed. When clubs like Brechin and Spartans forfeited Cup ties, nobody was suggesting that they'd broken the law of the land. They had however, failed to register their players properly. This happened over many years with Rangers and was adjudged to have been entirely deliberate. I don't care whether or not they sought or gained an advantage(although they obviously did). The fact is that those trophies were won while breaching very important football rules. Can you imagine actually wanting your team to retain trophies won so shamefully? Such grotesque embarrassment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Salty monkey tears... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRuffian Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I imagine that you've imagined it quite often as you seem to spend your every waking minute thinking about us. You absolute cretin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 I imagine that you've imagined it quite often as you seem to spend your every waking minute thinking about us. You absolute cretin. I have and it's dreadful. In fact it's unthinkable. Thanks for the abuse though. Resorting to it just proves that you've no actual counter argument. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insaintee Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 Wow! The_Arsehole has really turned into a bitter drunken mess recently. Dark place I'm telling you. My guess is his goldfish died and left him with out a friend in the world. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyWellFan Posted August 11, 2015 Share Posted August 11, 2015 You absolute cretin. Oh dear 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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