Big Rangers Administration/Liquidation Thread - All chat here!

[Captain_Sensible]

There is no real benefit to the non Old Firm clubs in seeing Rangers die. The continued presence of Celtic will still see us lumbered with an anti competitive league.

So here's what will happen.

Rangers newco will start afresh with no debt and the SPL will allow Rangers newco straight into the SPL. The SPL will impose no sanctions on Rangers newco. They can't impose sanctions on Rangers newco as they wouldn't want to create an anti competitive league with no challenge to Celtic. They will want to maximise TV income.

In return, Rangers newco will agree to a change in the voting to 75% majority. This will allow the non Old Firm clubs to get a greater share of the TV money.

There will be 2 winners and 1 loser.

Winners:

1. Rangers shed £150m of debt.

2. Non Old Firm clubs get a greater share of the TV money.

Loser:

1. Celtic lose a large chunk of TV money and face competition from a debt free Rangers.

Edited May 3, 2012 by Captain_Sensible

[Araminta Moonbeam QC]

Meanwhile over at comedy central, America is just one un-tapped resource

http://forum.rangers...entry1060007710

The delusion is strong, so strong..

Aye, those Hispanics are going to love love love your 'traditional' singing about killing Kaffliks.

[indicator]

Talksport have been a disgrace. Just an extension of the Record. Their 'updates' have been from Rangers apologist after Rangers apologist. I briefly caught a bit this morning from Stuart McCall about Motherwell qualifying for the Champions League. Needless to say, neither Motherwell nor the Champions League were mentioned.

Well NON-OF chairmen, particularly ours, see no problem with this sort of bias continuing. They obviously think that the punters (mugs) will continue to accept it as they have done for many years. I'm beginning to think that all scotlands radio media exist purely to report on behalf of the OF. What is just as worrying is that players and managers appear to be thinking and commenting along the same lines.

[Jussy]

Well NON-OF chairmen, particularly ours, see no problem with this sort of bias continuing. They obviously think that the punters (mugs) will continue to accept it as they have done for many years. I'm beginning to think that all scotlands radio media exist purely to report on behalf of the OF. What is just as worrying is that players and managers appear to be thinking and commenting along the same lines.

Right about now would be the ideal time for a typically "mad" rant from Romanov or Shiels on their feelings about the OF. Someone has to speak out on behalf of the ordinary fan.

[WeeHectorPar]

Meanwhile over at comedy central, America is just one un-tapped resource

http://forum.rangers...entry1060007710

I can just imagine all those illegal Mexican immigrants waving Union Jacks and shouting "Vamos los Ranchers de Chlaschow!"

[chico]

Few tweets I've seen say Bill Miller doesnt own a passport.

Also seen that he hasnt paid the administrators any fee and that the HMRC are claiming no dialogue over the bid.

Unpalatable as the revelations from the administrators press conference sounded earlier, it's not sounding like a serious bid.

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http://www.rangersmedia.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=726:regans-raging-appellates-anonymous&catid=110:other&Itemid=618

Q: When is an anonymous Appellate Tribunal not anonymous?

A: When the RangersMedia investigation team ‘set aboot ye’.

I don’t recall the Rangers supporters being asked to vote on the approval of a disciplinary system which favours anonymity over transparency. Therefore we are not bound by the ridiculous notion that some faceless tribunal can be appointed by some unknown judicial panel secretary who in turn was handpicked by Regan. And then be expected to meekly accept an unprecedented, unjust and possibly unlawful punishment that risks the very future of the Club that our families have supported for 140 years.

Rangers will today submit our appeal against the transfer embargo that was handed down by the allegedly conflicted and unfit Drysdale and his cronies. The appointment of the panel members to the appellate tribunal will be interesting. Will Regan carry out a fit and proper tests before their appointment? It may be wise for him to do so.

Regan has lost the trust (if he ever had it) of a substantial part of the Rangers support amid allegations of partisanship. His appointment to the SFA has become the stuff of legend and his previous knowledge of Lawwell has never been brought properly into the public domain. He was also embroiled in conflict in English cricket from whence he came, but more about that anon.

Regan and the SFA are also upset at, and on the warpath with, RangersMedia, but again that’s for another day. Suffice for now that the matter is in the hands of RangersMedia's solicitors.

In this internet day and age, it would be naive to think that the appellate tribunal members will be able to maintain their anonymity. And nor should they. As we have seen with Drysdale, it is vital that those sitting in judgement are known and their fitness examined. That is no more than natural justice, a principle which does not appear to have reached the ivory towers of Regan’s SFA.

And when their names are known, their fitness will be examined. In detail. To be clear, that is not a threat; it is a promise of transparency. Any information uncovered will be put in the public domain and from that the Rangers supporters can base their judgement as to whether the appellate tribunal, and those who appointed them, are fit and proper.

[Herman Hessian]

Stephen Craigan the latest arse-licker to come out and support Rangers.

He said Rangers and Celtic deserve to be special cases because they bring more to the league than the rest of the teams.

Seriously?

ray houghton said exactly the same thing on TalkShite this afternoon...

[chico]

@alextomo: Am told Bill Miller has no passport and has never seen a soccerball game, let alone one played by the Glasgow of Rangers

@BBCJamesCook: #Rangers' administrators say the taxman is supportive of Bill Miller's deal. HMRC say they have agreed to nothing.

Moonbeams?

[WeeHectorPar]

There is no real benefit to the non Old Firm clubs in seeing Rangers die. The continued presence of Celtic will still see us lumbered with an anti competitive league.

So here's what will happen.

Rangers newco will start afresh with no debt and the SPL will allow Rangers newco straight into the SPL. The SPL will impose no sanctions on Rangers newco. They can't impose sanctions on Rangers newco as they wouldn't want to create an anti competitive league with no challenge to Celtic. They will want to maximise TV income.

In return, Rangers newco will agree to a change in the voting to 75% majority. This will allow the non Old Firm clubs to get a greater share of the TV money.

There will be 2 winners and 1 loser.

Winners:

1. Rangers shed £150m of debt.

2. Non Old Firm clubs get a greater share of the TV money.

Loser:

1. Celtic lose a large chunk of TV money and face competition from a debt free Rangers.

Why the hell should RFC agree to a change in the voting system? After all THEY've done nothing wrong. It's the fault of every other basturt out there.

[welshbairn]

Right about now would be the ideal time for a typically "mad" rant from Romanov or Shiels on their feelings about the OF. Someone has to speak out on behalf of the ordinary fan.

Romanov's been suspiciously quiet over the whole saga. I guess his Vilnius wood burner's been working overtime destroying evidence of Hearts tax dodging..

Edited May 3, 2012 by welshbairn

[Herman Hessian]

Slight comedy in the background music to Paul Murray's interview being the Fields of Athenry...

presumably the "father's advice" mix, though ?

[Fife Saint]

@alextomo: Am told Bill Miller has no passport and has never seen a soccerball game, let alone one played by the Glasgow of Rangers

@BBCJamesCook: #Rangers' administrators say the taxman is supportive of Bill Miller's deal. HMRC say they have agreed to nothing.

Moonbeams?

One would suspect the Dark Arts are at work here.

[TheLip69]

Chris McLaughlin, BBC Sport"SPL source tells me that Bill Miller has been given no assurances about possible sanctions for a newco #Rangers"

Ah.

To paraphrase Mandy Rice Davies "They would say that wouldn't they"

Apologies to drooper who got there before me, at least I attributed the quote.

Edited May 3, 2012 by TheLip69

[Jussy]

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http://www.rangersme...ther&Itemid=618

Hilarious as that whole statement is, I find myself genuinely intrigued by this bit:

Regan and the SFA are also upset at, and on the warpath with, RangersMedia, but again that's for another day. Suffice for now that the matter is in the hands of RangersMedia's solicitors.

It would be good if a RM poster happened to stumble over here, read this and decide that they wanted to ask about it on RM.

[WeeHectorPar]

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http://www.rangersme...ther&Itemid=618

Lots of big words there from someone who is basically brain-dead.

[Araminta Moonbeam QC]

If nothing else comes out of this mess, at least we have all discovered the ongoing lol-fest that is Rainjurs Meeja.

Slogan 'All thae basturts are against ra peepul'

[)typically]

Duff and Phelps had bulletins relating to Rangers on their website prior to the administration. I posted the link on this very site.

Whether Whyte is the brains behind a sophisticated scam, I very much doubt, and he may well be a puppet, but I don't buy this notion that the administrators don't have clear links with him.

Also, when have D&P been 'ruffling Whyte's feathers'. Tokenistic at best, but more likely another ruse to deflect attention.

Totally agree. I keep hearing them say that Whyte is an "irrelevance" they are too quick to keep dismissing him, it makes me suspicious.

Reading between the lines with Miller's bid becoming "unconditional" all of a sudden.

Believe me when I say I will be delighted if I am wrong, but I won't be surprised if I'm not.

I think people are reading to much into this. Miller doesn't need conditions on his bid as he hasn't stumped up the £500k exclusivity fee. If something happens he does not like he just walks away with his bank balance still in tact. He only needed conditions when he was being asked to pay a non refundable deposit. As this seems to have been waived by Duff&Phelps what has he got to lose.

[WeeHectorPar]

Hilarious as that whole statement is, I find myself genuinely intrigued by this bit:

It would be good if a RM poster happened to stumble over here, read this and decide that they wanted to ask about it on RM.

Regan and the SFA are also upset at, and on the warpath with, RangersMedia, but again that's for another day. Suffice for now that the matter is in the hands of RangersMedia's solicitors.

If I was a fan of a club that was under investigation for so much dodgy activity I wouldn't be putting it about that my forum was running a prostitution ring.

[thelegendthatis]

Pick a team near you. A fiver to get in, reduce your travel and your carbon footprint (as if you cared), better banter, sometime the players will answer back. No segregation of supporters. Where you won't be conned by faceless 'businessmen'.

http://tinyurl.com/bngt2jm

Let the SPL just get on with their silly nonsense and Rangers with cowboy Miller in charge they won't see out the season, regardless what league they play in.