TheMessiah Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Enigma said: Think Nisbet will struggle. Only scores goals. Bit of a luxury player really, doesn’t create anything. Looked out his depth against a better defence (Queen of the South). 2 hours ago, Enigma said: You know fine well what it means. He won’t contribute much to you defensive or build up play but get the ball to him in the box and he’ll put it in the back of the next. He’s not the type to take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it single handedly, like Vaughan can. Play to his strengths and he will score goals and as a team that was winning the possession battle in most games and playing in oppositions half he got plenty of chances, might be a bit different for a Pars side battling against relegation. One black mark against him is despite all his goals he never got a hat trick. There wasn’t a game last season you could say he went on the rampage as such. A goalscoring striker who just scores lots of goals...oh no! I put you in the same bracket of stupidity as the folk that weren't worried about losing Clark cause "he just scores goals" That type of player is the type every club in the country wants, they are the rarest and hardest to find. You're line about "never went on a rampage and scored a hat-trick" made me snort, if that's his biggest failing, that's a pretty bloody good player in my book. I think the bottom line here is that you're just not willing to admit you'd be crying into your cereal in sadness and anger if he signed for us and are trying to make out like he's not as good as you thought because you've had to rip his posters off your wall. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Fitzgerald Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Having experienced the Houston approach (sign anyone you’ve remotely heard from in Scotland, but uninspiring) and then the Hartley approach (Young, hungry players from England with relative pedigree) I know which one was more successful, but which one was more exciting also.It can’t go as badly as us I’m sure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 The biggest difference between us and Falkirk is Falkirk hoovered up all the diddies that had been punted without ever asking them if they could play football whereas we have seen the play and paid some cash for them 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiah Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, Adam101 said: The biggest difference between us and Falkirk is Falkirk hoovered up all the diddies that had been punted without ever asking them if they could play football whereas we have seen the play and paid some cash for them That worries me more tbh Hoping that Crawford and McNamara have a hawk-like eye for a talented player but I've got the fear that they'll turn to out to be dogshit and we'll be fucked. Would gladly have those fears proven to be unnecessary though. Just get Cardle back so I can not even care and can just be happy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I think the bottom line here is that you're just not willing to admit you'd be crying into your cereal in sadness and anger if he signed for us and are trying to make out like he's not as good as you thought because you've had to rip his posters off your wall.Couldn’t actually be further from the truth. If you were to go back over our match threads you’d find I don’t w**k over him nearly as much as some of our fans. I don’t think he’d be nearly as effective in the Championship. The gap is huge. If you take the goals from his game he doesn’t have much else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 If you add goals to our team, then we'd be pretty decent. So if he signs and scores a few, no complaints.I'm still hoping for Tsigalko and Paiva to sign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 If we had had Nicky Clark we would have been top 3 last season, yes it's if my aunt had baws but pretty much all we missed last season was goals as every other team was as poor as everyone else 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMessiah Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Enigma said: Couldn’t actually be further from the truth. If you were to go back over our match threads you’d find I don’t w**k over him nearly as much as some of our fans. I don’t think he’d be nearly as effective in the Championship. The gap is huge. If you take the goals from his game he doesn’t have much else. If you take away clean sheets from Oliver Kahn's career he was actually pretty shite, didn't contribute much else. That's what you sound like, that stupid. Edited May 30, 2019 by TheMessiah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 If we had a goalscorer, we'd still have been guff. There was literally no width or creativity in the midfield all season. It's not as if the midfield were creating brilliant chances or whipping in fantastic balls for a poacher like Clark to pounce on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_no_1 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 You know fine well what it means. He won’t contribute much to you defensive or build up play but get the ball to him in the box and he’ll put it in the back of the next. He’s not the type to take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it single handedly, like Vaughan can. Play to his strengths and he will score goals and as a team that was winning the possession battle in most games and playing in oppositions half he got plenty of chances, might be a bit different for a Pars side battling against relegation. One black mark against him is despite all his goals he never got a hat trick. There wasn’t a game last season you could say he went on the rampage as such.Aaah so the permanently injured Vaughan is the hero but Nisbet is a striker who only scores goals. Got ye 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Was it Nisbet that absolutely ruined Devine and Durnan in the Scottish Cup game? Or was that Vaughan? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 I think Jamie Mole would have given those two the run around. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Couldn’t actually be further from the truth. If you were to go back over our match threads you’d find I don’t w**k over him nearly as much as some of our fans. I don’t think he’d be nearly as effective in the Championship. The gap is huge. If you take the goals from his game he doesn’t have much else.He constantly works up front, challenging for high balls and pressing defenders. He created a few goals from nothing last season aswell. He doesn't have a high record of assists because he is a natural goalscorer and will look to find the net rather than a teammate. We will absolutely miss him if he leaves. Was it Nisbet that absolutely ruined Devine and Durnan in the Scottish Cup game? Or was that Vaughan? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 If you take away clean sheets from Oliver Kahn's career he was actually pretty shite, didn't contribute much else. That's what you sound like, that stupid.Oliver Khan was a world class keeper, maybe the finest of his generation, Kevin Nisbet is a Scottish League One centre forward, are you “that stupid” to try to compare the two?Is it really that stupid to suggest a player who’s had one good season at League One might not quite be as successful in scoring goals at a higher level, a level he’d only scored two in 29 appearances before? Is it stupid to suggest that if he can’t score as many goals at a higher level his overall team contribution might not be enough to deem him a worthy asset?Anyway it’s a moot point as it doesn’t look like he’ll be signing for you after all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Jaffo Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Oliver Khan was a world class keeper, maybe the finest of his generation, Kevin Nisbet is a Scottish League One centre forward, are you “that stupid” to try to compare the two?Is it really that stupid to suggest a player who’s had one good season at League One might not quite be as successful in scoring goals at a higher level, a level he’d only scored two in 29 appearances before? Is it stupid to suggest that if he can’t score as many goals at a higher level his overall team contribution might not be enough to deem him a worthy asset?Anyway it’s a moot point as it doesn’t look like he’ll be signing for you after all.It’s stupid to try and say Nisbet won’t cut it in the Championship because he only scores goals. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Oliver Khan was a world class keeper, maybe the finest of his generation, Kevin Nisbet is a Scottish League One centre forward, are you “that stupid” to try to compare the two?Is it really that stupid to suggest a player who’s had one good season at League One might not quite be as successful in scoring goals at a higher level, a level he’d only scored two in 29 appearances before? Is it stupid to suggest that if he can’t score as many goals at a higher level his overall team contribution might not be enough to deem him a worthy asset?Anyway it’s a moot point as it doesn’t look like he’ll be signing for you after all.He was definitely comparing the quality of Oliver Kahn and Kevin Nisbet. Definitely what he was doing there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chubbychops Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Confirmed that Andy Ryan has signed a 1 year deal. Plus 1 year option of extention. Edited May 30, 2019 by Chubbychops 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 It’s stupid to try and say Nisbet won’t cut it in the Championship because he only scores goals. No. He scores goals at League One level I am not sure he’ll be able to replicate that at a higher level. He’s not such a rounded player that if you took those goals away you’d say he makes a positive contribution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smpar Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Chuffed to see Ryan signing on again. Hope he has a decent season, I'm firmly in the "we haven't seen the best of him yet" camp. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 14 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: It’s stupid to try and say Nisbet won’t cut it in the Championship because he only scores goals. This guy gets it. 3 minutes ago, smpar said: Chuffed to see Ryan signing on again. Hope he has a decent season, I'm firmly in the "we haven't seen the best of him yet" camp. Absolutely this, seems like a good bloke aswell. 5 minutes ago, Enigma said: No. He scores goals at League One level I am not sure he’ll be able to replicate that at a higher level. He’s not such a rounded player that if you took those goals away you’d say he makes a positive contribution. How many players in the lower leagues of Scotland are so well rounded that if you took away their most valued asset they'd still make a positive contribution? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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