Hearts Daft Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 He's not held down a regular starting place for a decade, either changing clubs or sitting on the bench picking up a wage. That's a journeyman as far as I'm concerned. He played for Hearts from 1995 to 2000 then Everton from 2000 to 2007. He was then moved on to Sheffield United who he played for for 3 years then spent 2 years at Huddersfield before joining Abereen. He's played for 17 years and 12 of those years have been for 2 clubs. Nowhere near a journeyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 We are a couple wins from second and are much improved on last season. Calling Gavin Rae and Gary Naysmith journeymen is utterly bizarre considering they have played at a very high level in their careers and are still more than capable of doing a job in the SPL. Stephen Hughes I am not sold on and I don't think is the type of player we need but he obviously has some talent, only an idiot would argue otherwise. Niall McGinn has obviously contributed most of our goals but he's not head and shoulers our best player like Griffiths is at Hibs. To compare the likes of Deegan, McPake etc to Rae and Naysmith is just daft. Still, at least we are not paying ridiculous wages for the likes of Liam Craig. How do you know we're paying ridiculous wages to Craig? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberDon Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 What journeymen do Aberdeen have? Langfield - Been here for 8 years Anderson -Youth system Jack - Youth system Considine - Youth system Reynolds - Still young, only two previous clubs Naysmith - Been covered Osbourne - At his second club. Arguably the only 'journeymen' in the team are Hughes and Vernon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Capsule Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Yes it is. Remember to give the wife a BJ tonight. That comment made me so upset I sucked water in through my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Gavin Rae? Is he really though? He's only had 4 clubs in his career and they've all been for extended spells. When I think of your stereotypical journeyman, I think of Jim Hamilton and Gavin's career has been nothing like Jim's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Rory Fallon defo a journeyman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberDon Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Gavin Rae? He's played for 4 different clubs in 17 years, and he's only at Aberdeen because he wanted to play for them before he retired. And I'm pretty sure he has been captain at some point for every team he played for, so he's not exactly been bit-part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberDon Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Rory Fallon defo a journeyman. So, our team of journeymen includes; one striker who doesn't get a game, Scott Vernon + Stephen Hughes. Ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 So, our team of journeymen includes; one striker who doesn't get a game, Scott Vernon + Stephen Hughes. Ok then. Milsom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Milsom He's only had 2 parent clubs FFS what's the definition of journeyman here?? Does that make Griffiths a journeyman I take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quitongo's Left Peg Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Do people actually genuinely care how many clubs their players have previously had? If someone comes to Kilmarnock having played for every single professional club in the U.K. and Ireland then as long as they do well whilst here, I couldn't care less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberDon Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Milsom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam4267 Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 So, our team of journeymen includes; one striker who doesn't get a game, Scott Vernon + Stephen Hughes. Ok then. I never said you had a squad of journeymen. Just contributing to this highly riveting discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifespud Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Sums up a fair number of Scottish players. jour·ney·man /ˈjərnēmən/ Noun A trained worker who is employed by someone else. A worker or sports player who is reliable but not outstanding. Synonyms day laborer - apprentice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 He's only had 2 parent clubs FFS what's the definition of journeyman here?? Does that make Griffiths a journeyman I take it. He's too young to be called a journeyman and each move has been a step up: Livi - Dundee - Wolves. He is currently in a transitional stage of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 each move has been a step up: Not to piss on your parade but... Wolves>Hibs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Not to piss on your parade but... Wolves>Hibs. He is still a Wolves player. He has never moved to Hibs. Thanks for trying though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts Daft Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 He is still a Wolves player. He has never moved to Hibs. Thanks for trying though. So if loan deals don't count, how the f**k is Milsom a journeyman with a total of 2 clubs? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Widge Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 So if loan deals don't count, how the f**k is Milsom a journeyman with a total of 2 clubs? :lol: Cause he's wrong yet again and trying to argue his way out of it. It's really quite amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 So if loan deals don't count, how the f**k is Milsom a journeyman with a total of 2 clubs? :lol: Milsom has played for a number of clubs either on loan or a transfer. However you wouldnt say its a step up or a step down if its a loan as the player is still contracted to his parent club ie Griffiths and Wolves. I can understand why you simpletons are stuggling though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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