Should Weed Be Legal?

[Derry Alli]

15 hours ago, TxRover said:

No link found:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2800728

 

7 hours ago, Derry Alli said:

You just posted one.

 

1 hour ago, TxRover said:

Did you read the report?

[Sweet Pete]

8 hours ago, ++Ammo - Airdrie++ said:

Doesn't fit the "all drugs are bad" narrative though, so don't bring facts to a debate!!!

I can only speak for myself tbh, but since I've used it "properly" rather than some daft wee guy just trying to get as stoned as I can, I've lost 5 stone in weight (down to a healthy 12.5 now), been promoted twice in work, done the majority of the Inside of my house up myself, weined myself off of Mirtazipine anti depressants, cut the opioid use by 50% for chronic knee pain, and just generally an all round better person (noticeably to others).  But aye, it's bad eh.

Lost all that weight because you can't afford to eat because you're a POT ADDICT! Robbing grannies and invalids for your DRUG FIX!

[stevieKTID]

6 hours ago, The Moonster said:

Lol what a moron. Did you watch this film by any chance?

I've got that poster hanging in my living room, right above the drawer where I keep my stash.

[++Ammo - Airdrie++]

1 hour ago, Binos said:

It massively ramps up issues with people who already have mental health problems 

"here, have some more paint from my massively broad brush strokes".

Your generalisation is astounding and ill informed.

22 minutes ago, Sweet Pete said:

Lost all that weight because you can't afford to eat because you're a POT ADDICT! Robbing grannies and invalids for your DRUG FIX!

you forgot "steal from yer dad" and "isolated from your family" for the full house there mate.

[Sweet Pete]

2 hours ago, ++Ammo - Airdrie++ said:

"here, have some more paint from my massively broad brush strokes".

Your generalisation is astounding and ill informed.

you forgot "steal from yer dad" and "isolated from your family" for the full house there mate.

I bet you live in a squat, injecting crack and smoking acid.

[Binos]

3 hours ago, ++Ammo - Airdrie++ said:

"here, have some more paint from my massively broad brush strokes".

Your generalisation is astounding and ill informed.

 

I've been quite specific 

It increases the likelihood of psychosis 

[TxRover]

7 hours ago, Derry Alli said:

 

 

Whoosh

[TxRover]

4 hours ago, Binos said:

I've been quite specific 

It increases the likelihood of psychosis 

And you didn’t address the medical research paper I linked that refutes that statement.

[Satoshi]

Not surprised at all that Binos is opposed to a slam dunk policy like legalising marijuana.

Who exactly benefits from prosecuting people who voluntarily take a substance that is demonstrably far safer than many legal substances?

[Molotov]

3 hours ago, Satoshi said:

Not surprised at all that Binos is opposed to a slam dunk policy like legalising marijuana.

Who exactly benefits from prosecuting people who voluntarily take a substance that is demonstrably far safer than many legal substances?

There are significant health benefits derived from using the medicinal benefits that parts of the plant can offer to treat many conditions that are “managed” currently by pharmaceutical companies and GPs.

The knock on effect of many of these lab drugs is that they often have significant side effects that lead to other complications. 

Given that so many countries have opened up to the health benefits it seems absurd that we are not following suit. 

Is the CBD oil that’s currently in the UK as good as that in USA, Canada, Australia?

For example I have friends and relatives who suffer with arthritis as an example but they are unsure to give CBD a chance and I’m unsure which company to use.

[Molotov]

I’d also like to see us legalise weed in Scotland. 

Lets get some new coffee shops and get these franchise companies (Starbucks, Costa, etc) to fcuk with their extremely unhealthy products loaded with high fat and sugar.

There must be loads of run down pubs that have been forced to close over the last few decades that could be revamped on the high street. 

Then there is the financial benefit of raising tax on the revenues and less money spent on dealing with the current criminalisation policies.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/insights/110916/economic-benefits-legalizing-weed.asp

 

 

[Binos]

9 hours ago, TxRover said:

And you didn’t address the medical research paper I linked that refutes that statement.

How you managed to find that amongst the deluge of medical professionals stating the opposite

[Binos]

9 hours ago, TxRover said:

And you didn’t address the medical research paper I linked that refutes that statement.

Also it didn't state that 

[RuMoore]

Weed should be legal but it should be an arrestable offence to refer to yourself as a "Stoner" and anyone suspected as identifying with any part of "Stoner culture" should be on a list. 

[coprolite]

29 minutes ago, Binos said:

How you managed to find that amongst the deluge of medical professionals stating the opposite

I don't have anything to hand and can't be arsed searching but im sure that some research found that it was newer, stronger breeds of skunk that were particularly linked to psychosis. 

In the same way that bootleggers and illicit consumers in 1920s chigaco went for whisky rather than a few pints of bitter, the economics of illegality encourages more potent, concentrated products. 

I used to be quite a heavy smoker back in the day. When i started out soapbar/ resin was much more common. I could easily have a smoke then go to the pub a couple of hours later and function normally. It also wasn't too much of a barrier to studying or work. 

Skunk is a completely different beast. It can make me extremely paranoid and i find normal functioning much more of a problem. 

As a society, we currently don't allow unrestricted sale of unregulated high strength moonshine, because it's dangerous. We tax the shit out of high strength spirits  because they're potentially very harmful. We still heavily tax beer and cider, because of health concerns. 

It shouldn't be beyond the wit of man to arrange something similar for the range of different products that are unhelpfully grouped as a single thing, cannabis, in the minds of many. 

[Sweet Pete]

1 hour ago, coprolite said:

I don't have anything to hand and can't be arsed searching but im sure that some research found that it was newer, stronger breeds of skunk that were particularly linked to psychosis. 

In the same way that bootleggers and illicit consumers in 1920s chigaco went for whisky rather than a few pints of bitter, the economics of illegality encourages more potent, concentrated products. 

I used to be quite a heavy smoker back in the day. When i started out soapbar/ resin was much more common. I could easily have a smoke then go to the pub a couple of hours later and function normally. It also wasn't too much of a barrier to studying or work. 

Skunk is a completely different beast. It can make me extremely paranoid and i find normal functioning much more of a problem. 

As a society, we currently don't allow unrestricted sale of unregulated high strength moonshine, because it's dangerous. We tax the shit out of high strength spirits  because they're potentially very harmful. We still heavily tax beer and cider, because of health concerns. 

It shouldn't be beyond the wit of man to arrange something similar for the range of different products that are unhelpfully grouped as a single thing, cannabis, in the minds of many. 

I don't smoke, but this sums up my feelings on the matter.

Also, to echo another poster "stoners" are losers, with poor personal hygiene, shite opinions, no dress sense and are boring, cringeworthy c***s.  Smoke if you want, but avoid being part of the stoner crowd at all costs.

[Jives Miguel]

I like listening to stoner rock/metal.

[welshbairn]

2 hours ago, coprolite said:

When i started out soapbar/ resin was much more common. I could easily have a smoke then go to the pub a couple of hours later and function normally. It also wasn't too much of a barrier to studying or work. 

Skunk is a completely different beast. It can make me extremely paranoid and i find normal functioning much more of a problem. 

That's why I hardly ever smoke anymore, the goldilocks zone between nothing happening and whiteout is a rare thing these days, unless you have a reliable and regular dealer or grow your own I suppose.

[RawB93]

Can anyone who lives in a country where it’s legalised tell me what prices are like? - per g, hq and so on. I’ve never been to Amsterdam either, though would imagine they have separate tourist prices. 
I guess what I’m getting at is, is there a chance that legalising and taxing it could actually make it unaffordable for some people?

Whilst simultaneously making a select few companies very rich… I’d really rather it was just decriminalised and legal to smoke, cultivate (small amounts) and distribute. And those that need it can get it. 

[parsforlife]

3 hours ago, RawB93 said:

Can anyone who lives in a country where it’s legalised tell me what prices are like? - per g, hq and so on. I’ve never been to Amsterdam either, though would imagine they have separate tourist prices. 
I guess what I’m getting at is, is there a chance that legalising and taxing it could actually make it unaffordable for some people?

Whilst simultaneously making a select few companies very rich… I’d really rather it was just decriminalised and legal to smoke, cultivate (small amounts) and distribute. And those that need it can get it. 

Without knowing the numbers I guess that the answer to that is whilst there’s a market of dodgy tobacco(and I mean the faked efforts, not duty free brought in) and faked spirits also exist the vast majority are of the use of these substances is through the legal routes.

We can regulate and legalise sale and also allow for home grows, same way as home brews are legal but you can’t just sell out your house 

I agree there’s a few lining up big profits,  but there is no hippie utopia of small businesses just supplying the local area currently.  Drug supply is big business already, there efforts of big businesses to control market and keep the profit in the hands of a few already exists, we just don’t see there branding on tv adverts.

I just don’t see how the illegal market can match a legal one,  yes tax and regulations come with a cost,  but surely far less than trafficking costs, bribes etc