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That was abysmal. In control after the leveller and a horror mistake by Nelson costs us the game. I think it's time for a change in coach but dont blame him for all of that tonight. Players were very poor in 1st half and only really turned up after half time until the red card. The lack of some the basics really concerns me. not able to control the ball, not able to pass short distances.

 

Very disappointing given we were thrown a lifeline by the Hungarians.

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6 minutes ago, Moysterclass said:

I know standards are low but I'd still expect us to beat, for example, Indonesia. 

Tbf a lot of Kazakhstans senior players play for Astana, who seem to regularly make groups in Europe (might be wrong, I've not checked), and who beat SK Brann to make the league phase this year (which would see fans in this country buzzing if one of our clubs managed it).

They reached the play offs for the Euros too, 4pts behind Denmark in the groups before Greece thumped them in their play off game.

It does rather reek of how folk used to be snobbish about teams like Slovakia decades ago whereas now it's accepted we're a similar level as them. Kazakhstan will probably be caught up with us completely within the next decade. 

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8 minutes ago, Quentin Taranbino said:

Have we ever 'sacked' an under 21 manager? I can't actually recall how the previous ones left their role

Stark and Sbragia both "stepped down".

Also I can't believe that's been 8 years of Gemmill now.

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5 hours ago, RandomGuy. said:

Tbf a lot of Kazakhstans senior players play for Astana, who seem to regularly make groups in Europe (might be wrong, I've not checked), and who beat SK Brann to make the league phase this year (which would see fans in this country buzzing if one of our clubs managed it).

They reached the play offs for the Euros too, 4pts behind Denmark in the groups before Greece thumped them in their play off game.

It does rather reek of how folk used to be snobbish about teams like Slovakia decades ago whereas now it's accepted we're a similar level as them. Kazakhstan will probably be caught up with us completely within the next decade. 


They beat Malta twice and lost every single other game in this group apart from today's. That included an absolute scudding from us in Paisley. People are being snobbish because they are clearly shite.

Kazakhstan's full team reached the play-offs for the Euros through the Nations League C path, and wouldn't have qualified otherwise since they were 4th in their qualifying group.

Incidentally, Slovakia came 3rd in that same Nations League group, so I'm not really sure that they are a similar level to us. I'd also be surprised if anyone was snobbish about Slovakia decades ago given that a) they've only existed as a country for 30 years, b) they spun out of a former European Championship winning nation and c) we didn't play against them until 2016, by which point they'd been to a World Cup and a Euros.

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I’d like to see Ricky Sbragia given a chance.   
 

Seriously though, it’d be just about acceptable if at any point in the last eight years the under 21s were producing a direct feeding ground for the full team. But they haven’t, and it isn’t.  Scotland Gemmell’s hoofball helps nobody.  

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