sergie's no1 fan Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Great news. If he creates half the damage Milliband has managed to cause we are laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 there saying independence looks 'more likely than ever' then he says the polls are neck and neck. What is he blabbering on about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 He's now going on about the border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 there saying independence looks 'more likely than ever' then he says the polls are neck and neck. What is he blabbering on about? Jeremy knows the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onovvii Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/independent-scotland-could-join-eu-in-18-months-1-3535302#.VA7QkRFr2v0.twitter AN independent Scotland’s membership of the European Union would be secured within the SNP’s 18-month timescale, a former president of the European Parliament has said. But you would need to take the Euro, by which point £1 = €1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 You said it was a put down to compare Scotland to a region of England after I compared it to Yorkshire. An area of the UK that used to have it's own monachy, army and has a population almost Identical to Scotland, and has a distinct diffence in it's genetic makeup when compared to the south east of England. Comparing Yorkshire and Scotland is fair and if you think that's a put down, then thats because you feel superior somehow. Thats nationalism for you. Im not British, Im euopean and want to fight Nationalists like Alex Salmond and Nigel Farage. A no vote effectly gives Devo Max now anyway, so voting Yes is pure Nationalistic bravado, all the risk with no extra potenial gains, if indeed they are gains. Have a simultaneous +1 for your stand against the beast that is nationalism and -1 for the devo max comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 there saying independence looks 'more likely than ever' then he says the polls are neck and neck. What is he blabbering on about? What he's saying is correct. It does look more likely than ever because the polls are neck and neck. No had a huge lead in the polls even 6 weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 PMQ's cancelled tomorrow. D-Cam's on his way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Can either side demand a recount in the likely event of a say, 2% difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 You said it was a put down to compare Scotland to a region of England after I compared it to Yorkshire. An area of the UK that used to have it's own monachy, army and has a population almost Identical to Scotland, and has a distinct diffence in it's genetic makeup when compared to the south east of England. Comparing Yorkshire and Scotland is fair and if you think that's a put down, then thats because you feel superior somehow. Thats nationalism for you. Im not British, Im euopean and want to fight Nationalists like Alex Salmond and Nigel Farage. A no vote effectly gives Devo Max now anyway, so voting Yes is pure Nationalistic bravado, all the risk with no extra potenial gains, if indeed they are gains. A 'No' vote gives a timetable (maybe) for debates about an undefined white paper on Devo Plus. Hardly the same thing at all. And even if Devo Max (whatever that turns out to be) were to be generously bestowed upon us by Westminster do you honestly believe that would be the equivalent of actual Independence. Do you think the Scottish government would be given control of all the levers of power? You're either kidding yourself or trying to kid someone else. You think we'd be allowed to compete with Ireland on corporation tax rates (and thereby compete with London)? What about Trident - could we tell Westminster to take it away and, incidentally, we're not paying for it? Devo Max is an administrative exercise; for actual sovereignty we need Independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shengus Khan Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 PMQ's cancelled tomorrow. D-Cam's on his way This is like trying to put a fire out with petrol. Glorious! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onovvii Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 A 'No' vote gives a timetable (maybe) for debates about an undefined white paper on Devo Plus. Hardly the same thing at all. And even if Devo Max (whatever that turns out to be) were to be generously bestowed upon us by Westminster do you honestly believe that would be the equivalent of actual Independence. Do you think the Scottish government would be given control of all the levers of power? You're either kidding yourself or trying to kid someone else. You think we'd be allowed to compete with Ireland on corporation tax rates (and thereby compete with London)? What about Trident - could we tell Westminster to take it away and, incidentally, we're not paying for it? Devo Max is an administrative exercise; for actual sovereignty we need Independence. Salmod is backtraking on Trident probably after the Estonian security officer was abducted in Estonia by a Russian armed convoy. We are already entering a new cold war at best and WW3 at worse. The Wales NATO summet has said NATO memebrship is 2% GDP minium now, so Scotland will need to share the Armed forces. So independent in name only it seems after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Salmod is backtraking on Trident probably after the Estonian security officer was abducted in Estonia by a Russian armed convoy. We are already entering a new cold war at best and WW3 at worse. The Wales NATO summet has said NATO memebrship is 2% GDP minium now, so Scotland will need to share the Armed forces. So independent in name only it seems after all. Utter fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Jeremy vine ffs! Scots can rent out Faslane to the Russians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Please explain to me what nationalist did to your: a) family, b) town, c) country and how it directly related to the independence debate here in Scotalnd. Please be very specific in your answer. Onovvii? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigOutYourSoul Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 The amount of panic down South is embarrassing now. They will do more harm than good as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 PMQ's cancelled tomorrow. D-Cam's on his way Massive, massive panic form the no mob, they don't seem to realise that these 3 numpties will increase the yes vote, brilliant, suicidal stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 PMQ's cancelled tomorrow. D-Cam's on his way They're panicking more than I assumed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Better Together? Hard to believe that when you look at the 'disproportionate' defence cuts made in Scotland since the Tories came to power in 2010: Shut down (or shutting down) RAF Kinloss Rescue Coordination Centre at Kinloss RAF Leuchars 45 Commando Royal Navy Search & Rescue at Prestwick, HMS Gannet Dreghorn Barracks Redford Barracks Craigiehall Barracks Clyde Coastguard Forth Coastguard In summary they shut down Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Will the football results still be read out on the BBC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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