ICTChris Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 Worth noting that in 1997, the worst Tory result in a century, 28% of this age group voted Tory. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 It's no doubt that the Tories 'Rule Britannia, blitz spirit, stiff upper lip, 2 World Wars and One World Cup' stance still resonates with pension age voters, but for people under the age of 40, I don't think they care that much about a war that happened before a lot of their parents or grandparents were born. Same goes for the monarchy. Young people simply don't care. Which is great, IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 3 hours ago, TheScarf said: It's no doubt that the Tories 'Rule Britannia, blitz spirit, stiff upper lip, 2 World Wars and One World Cup' stance still resonates with pension age voters, but for people under the age of 40, I don't think they care that much about a war that happened before a lot of their parents or grandparents were born. Same goes for the monarchy. Young people simply don't care. Which is great, IMO. Be good if they cared enough for a higher percentage to actually vote. No point in supporting the right policies/parties if you cant be arsed turning up to vote. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Rutherglen and Hamilton West by-election today. Here are the candidates: Gloria Adebo (Scottish Liberal Democrats) Bill Bonnar (Scottish Socialist Party) Garry Cooke (Independent) Andrew Daly (Independent) Cameron Eadie (Scottish Greens) Prince Ankit Love, Emperor of India (Independent) Niall Fraser (Scottish Family Party) Ewan Hoyle (Volt UK) Thomas Kerr (Scottish Conservatives) Katy Loudon (SNP) Chris Sermanni (Scottish Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition) Michael Shanks (Scottish Labour) David Stark (Reform UK) Colette Walker (Independence for Scotland Party) Come on Prince Ankit Love, Emperor of India, your country needs you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 On 28/09/2023 at 18:35, Granny Danger said: Be good if they cared enough for a higher percentage to actually vote. No point in supporting the right policies/parties if you cant be arsed turning up to vote. Be good if Brexit-voting clowns like yourself didn't turn up to vote though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 38 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Rutherglen and Hamilton West by-election today. Here are the candidates: Gloria Adebo (Scottish Liberal Democrats) Bill Bonnar (Scottish Socialist Party) Garry Cooke (Independent) Andrew Daly (Independent) Cameron Eadie (Scottish Greens) Prince Ankit Love, Emperor of India (Independent) Niall Fraser (Scottish Family Party) Ewan Hoyle (Volt UK) Thomas Kerr (Scottish Conservatives) Katy Loudon (SNP) Chris Sermanni (Scottish Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition) Michael Shanks (Scottish Labour) David Stark (Reform UK) Colette Walker (Independence for Scotland Party) Come on Prince Ankit Love, Emperor of India, your country needs you Some of these right-wingers like the Family Party and Reform may take votes of Labour the Optional Identity Marks, to benefit the SNP. Hope Starmer is sent home with his tail between his legs to rethink his strategy of getting into bed with Rupert Murdoch and aping the Tories. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Prince Ankit Love for the win pls. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrbridgeSaintee Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Labour for the win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I knew Labour were going to be favourites going into this but I had a quick look on the exchange a few days ago, SNP were trading at 13.5 and Labour at 1.07! Seems they have it down as an absolute slam dunk for Labour. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspect Device Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 57 minutes ago, Big Fifer said: I knew Labour were going to be favourites going into this but I had a quick look on the exchange a few days ago, SNP were trading at 13.5 and Labour at 1.07! Seems they have it down as an absolute slam dunk for Labour. No surprise really. I'd be shocked if it was even close. In Keegan style I would love it, just love it if Labour didn't win but its not going to happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Suspect Device said: No surprise really. I'd be shocked if it was even close. In Keegan style I would love it, just love it if Labour didn't win but its not going to happen. That Hamilton seat is fairly Labour leaning and not as has been made out in the press as some kind of Bellweather seat. The SNP need to be polling >15% ahead in national polls (as was the case in 2015 and 2019) to win it. It's really about the margin of Labour victory as a gauge of how well the SNP vote is holding up in the central belt. Edited October 5, 2023 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Rumours going round that they might have the count in Rutherglen & Hamilton West done by midnight, which you'd think would suggest a shockingly low turnout, reflecting the lack of enthusiasm for either the SNP or Labour. Labour will surely still win it comfortably though and it'll be a disaster for them if they don't, it's a seat they won in 2017. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: Rumours going round that they might have the count in Rutherglen & Hamilton West done by midnight, which you'd think would suggest a shockingly low turnout, reflecting the lack of enthusiasm for either the SNP or Labour. Labour will surely still win it comfortably though and it'll be a disaster for them if they don't, it's a seat they won in 2017. I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was the case, and to be honest who could blame any electorate at a time when politics in Scotland and across the UK is a thoroughly discredited business. That's not likely to change anytime soon and Labour would do well to avoid crowing too loudly if there is a poor turnout. But no doubt they will. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: Rumours going round that they might have the count in Rutherglen & Hamilton West done by midnight, which you'd think would suggest a shockingly low turnout, reflecting the lack of enthusiasm for either the SNP or Labour. Labour will surely still win it comfortably though and it'll be a disaster for them if they don't, it's a seat they won in 2017. Is it not always one of the first seats to declare in elections? (Clearly not renowned for large turnouts). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: Rumours going round that they might have the count in Rutherglen & Hamilton West done by midnight, which you'd think would suggest a shockingly low turnout, reflecting the lack of enthusiasm for either the SNP or Labour. Labour will surely still win it comfortably though and it'll be a disaster for them if they don't, it's a seat they won in 2017. Turnout will also be hit by ID requirements. I don't think the voter ID laws have been a big part of the news for this election but it is the first time in modern times ID is required to vote in scotland. I'm sure a lot of people will have turned up, been turned away and not gone back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 People will blame the ID issue but I think apathy and the weather will have played a bigger role. Also the fact they’ll just have to vote again in the GE, which could conceivably happen in 6 months’ time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Tunbridge Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Guy reporting at the count says the Tories may lose their deposit. Never doubt the good people of Hamilton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Word on the pavey yesterday was a "good result" for the SNP was within 5000 given the data coming back from canvassing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFC. Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Dreadful turnout. Apathy, weather, potential GE soon and issue surrounding ID should mean Labour winning this fairly comfortably. The grey vote should ensure it. If people under 40 cannot be arsed voting (can’t really be blamed) then SNP have no chance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, DAFC. said: Dreadful turnout. Apathy, weather, potential GE soon and issue surrounding ID should mean Labour winning this fairly comfortably. The grey vote should ensure it. If people under 40 cannot be arsed voting (can’t really be blamed) then SNP have no chance. I'd say the turnout isn't bad for a by election. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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