Latest Polls and Latest Odds

[Highlandmagar]

7 minutes ago, doulikefish said:

Is that the polling company owned by the tories?

I think they are trying to scare folk 

Quite possibly. My own reflection on it are that Labour will have a majority. I think in double figures. 40 to 90.

[GordonS]

7 hours ago, orfc said:

Yeh certainly wasn't many complaints on here when the SNP won 56 out of 59 seats on half the vote, if anything it was more like celebrations

And till recently the SNP were still saying more than half the seats was a mandate for independence when we knew it only needed about 35% of the vote

Still, K-DAY minus 1

The morning after the 2015 SNP landslide Nicola Sturgeon took part in a joint press conference with other party leaders including the English & Welsh Greens calling for PR. The SNP has never had any other position than support for PR.

[GordonS]

1 hour ago, doulikefish said:

Is that the polling company owned by the tories?

I think they are trying to scare folk 

No, they're not owned by the Tories. They are also just amount the most accurate pollster in elections over the past decade.

[Fullerene]

17 hours ago, GordonS said:

Labour predicted to win 75% of the seats in parliament off 42% of the vote, which Survation notes would potentially make us the least representative democracy in the world, and still nobody is talking about how the electoral system is a total joke.

Which means their majority is built on a house of cards.  Labour will act like their position is unassailable and pretend they have 75% of the vote.

However the Tories could win another election with a totally different 42%.

Personally I suspect the Tories will stay in opposition until they choose a leader whose name is currently unknown.  Then they can pretend they have learnt their lesson and are ready to offer something new.  When I say new, I actually mean old but who cares about the detail.

[GordonS]

7 hours ago, scottsdad said:

There is an argument to be made that publishing polls should be banned during an election campaign. I've never thought much about it until now - this, more than any other, has led to changes in campaign strategy.

Completely agree. They reduce it to a horse race instead of a debate about ideas. They lead people to vote in different ways than they otherwise would. I'd ban them from the dissolution of parliament. 

[MazzyStar]

6 minutes ago, GordonS said:

No, they're not owned by the Tories. They are also just amount the most accurate pollster in elections over the past decade.

It was literally founded by Nadhim Zahawi and Stephan Shakespeare (the former owner of owner of conservativehome) and he is still the CEO. 

[BFTD]

3 hours ago, GordonS said:

The morning after the 2015 SNP landslide Nicola Sturgeon took part in a joint press conference with other party leaders including the English & Welsh Greens calling for PR. The SNP has never had any other position than support for PR.

Well, at least he's managed to get one bite, other than from me laughing at his astonishingly poor trolling.

Seriously, he's been trying to pretend we're all upset about Labour punting the Tories out of office for months now. I'm more upset about the Lib Dems gaining seats than the average poster on here is about Labour finally getting back into office.

[GordonS]

1 minute ago, BFTD said:

Well, at least he's managed to get one bite, other than from me laughing at his astonishingly poor trolling.

Seriously, he's been trying to pretend we're all upset about Labour punting the Tories out of office for months now. I'm more upset about the Lib Dems gaining seats than the average poster on here is about Labour finally getting back into office.

I can understand why some folk might misinterpret the criticism of Labour though. With the Tories, you know they're going to shill for the uber rich, they're going to underfund public services, blow a dogwhistle on immigration and feather their own nests. That's what the party is for and it's what their voters expect. But Labour, they're supposed to be the good guys. They're supposed to at least attempt to make the country fairer. They're not even in office and already they're a let-down, and everyone knows it's worse to be the subject of disappointment than anger.

[Wee-Bey]

 

[Wee-Bey]

 

[Fullerene]

4 hours ago, Cheese said:

 

.. an again today Prime Minister's Question Time has been cancelled yet again as the Apathy Party have still not decided who the Prime Minister should be.  In fact, the party have yet to decide on any of the positions of Government or even about having a meeting to decide any of these things.

Sir Keir Starmer, Leader of the Opposition has issued a formal complaint but is yet to receive a reply.

.. and so it goes on.

[Lurkst]

18 hours ago, Cheese said:

 

Ian Murray is indestructible!

 

[Enigma]

5 hours ago, Lurkst said:

Ian Murray is indestructible!

 

Only the Rovers board of directors can get rid of Ian Murray!

[Wee-Bey]

 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

10 hours ago, Cheese said:

 

Who the f**k did they interview?

[BFTD]

On 13/08/2024 at 07:58, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Who the f**k did they interview?

Racists.

There are more of them around than we'd like to imagine. They're just much better at keeping their views to themselves these days, until they find themselves in likeminded company. The only explanation I can think of is that we all seem to need people to look down on, and people with a different skin colour and/or background are the lowest-hanging fruit for folk who secretly feel they've few other options. Going by the logic exhibited in the questions asked, the way to deal with racism is to violently attack racists until the government admits that we have too many racists and does something about them.

^{I know at least one poster will go into faux-outraged "so much for the tolerant left!" mode, so here's the disclaimer that I wasn't making a genuine suggestion there.}

[dirty dingus]

3 hours ago, BFTD said:

Racists.

There are more of them around than we'd like to imagine. They're just much better at keeping their views to themselves these days, until they find themselves in likeminded company. The only explanation I can think of is that we all seem to need people to look down on, and people with a different skin colour and/or background are the lowest-hanging fruit for folk who secretly feel they've few other options. Going by the logic exhibited in the questions asked, the way to deal with racism is to violently attack racists until the government admits that we have too many racists and does something about them.

^{I know at least one poster will go into faux-outraged "so much for the tolerant left!" mode, so here's the disclaimer that I wasn't making a genuine suggestion there.}

My favourite is them junkies and brew boys. So what do you think of offshoring and tax evasion? Hhmmm junkies, brew boys and immigrants. 

[Fullerene]

It is almost as if Twitter, I mean X, was owned by somebody who was born in Apartheid South Africa.

 

[ICTChris]

Those questions are poorly worded.  I think a plainly written question would get a far different response.

[Wee-Bey]