H_B Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Still interesting though.... and encouraging for Yes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 The methodology of the previous Survation poll and this one aren't the same. So they aren't like for like comparisons. Lawl!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 "Let's start with Survation's second contribution to this campaign, which shows the No camp's lead being cut by more than half" Gutted for you, HB. However, before we all get too carried away, it should be remembered that we can't make a truly like-for-like comparison with the last Survation poll, because John Curtice was so scathing of the methodology that Damian Lyons-Lowe (to his great credit) more or less immediately committed himself to making a significant change, which we can assume has now been implemented. Even allowing for that, though, it still seems likely that there has been significant movement to Yes. Gutted for you 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 However, before we all get too carried away, it should be remembered that we can't make a truly like-for-like comparison with the last Survation poll, because John Curtice was so scathing of the methodology that Damian Lyons-Lowe (to his great credit) more or less immediately committed himself to making a significant change, which we can assume has now been implemented. Even allowing for that, though, it still seems likely that there has been significant movement to Yes. Gutted for you I'm just delighted you've taken the time to reply to a post I made. A refreshing change from when you ignored the ATOS question I posed to you repeatedly several weeks back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Polls are pointless really. I'll just stick my neck out and make a prediction for September. Yes - 45% No - 55% IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Polls are pointless really. I'll just stick my neck out and make a prediction for September. Yes - 45% No - 55% IMO. I think it will be closer than that. I'd be surprised if it was any more clear cut than 53-47. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I think it will be closer than that. I'd be surprised if it was any more clear cut than 53-47. That would give us a mandate to have another referendum in the 2016 parly, should the Yes parties get a majority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Who is the us with this made up mandate? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) The methodology of the previous Survation poll and this one aren't the same. So they aren't like for like comparisons. True, so there are many permutations on what the effect of Osborne's intervention might have been in that case - the most you can probably say is that the intervention has had no appreciable negative effect within Survation's polling sample (even if the entire positive swing were due to changes in methodology) Edited February 20, 2014 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 That would give us a mandate to have another referendum in the 2016 parly, should the Yes parties get a majority. No it wouldn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 No it wouldn't. Yes it would. I would imagine the majority of SNP members would be pushing to have a referendum within the 2016 parliament included in their manifesto. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 That would give us a mandate to have another referendum in the 2016 parly, should the Yes parties get a majority. In the name of God - NO!!!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 In the name of God - NO!!!!!!! It ain't goin away. We only have to win once 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Yes it would. I would imagine the majority of SNP members would be pushing to have a referendum within the 2016 parliament included in their manifesto. I would imagine they won't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banterman86 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I would imagine they won't. This is one of the most interesting questions of a Post-No vote. i don't think it;s credible for the SNP to have a referendum in their manifesto in 2016, but they need soemthing to palcate the grassroots, and keep forward travel as a party moving for Scottish independence. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 This is one of the most interesting questions of a Post-No vote. i don't think it;s credible for the SNP to have a referendum in their manifesto in 2016, but they need soemthing to palcate the grassroots, and keep forward travel as a party moving for Scottish independence. Go for the Irish Republic route of "It's an aspiration for us to have a United Ireland" (But please please don't make us) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKBREA1J00I20140220?irpc=932 Daily Mail survation poll Definite signs of reaction to Gideon and friends statement on currency union. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 http://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKBREA1J00I20140220?irpc=932 Daily Mail survation poll Definite signs of reaction to Gideon and friends statement on currency union. Its bloody hilarious that they have used all their ammo on the daft wee gunfight before the war. What can they hit us with now ? Hee haw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMMjag Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Aye, I would think so. The last RangersMedia indy poll was YES 18% NO 72% (no surprises there) Traitors, scabs, not real Rangers men, etc etc. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Ladbrokes latest odds 1/5 NO 7/2 YES just saying Edited February 20, 2014 by ecto 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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