strichener Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Many of them know as much, if not more about politics and the economy than a lot of the adults who will be voting. They are far more switched on to new media and can research far more than the majority of those in the 60+ bracket. They will also be affected by this decision far more than the majority of the electorate. Regardless of which decision is taken, it is absolutely right that they lowered the voting age as much as is practically possible. Shame a lot of them won't be able to vote in a general election for another 5 1/2 years. If only westminster treated them with the same respect as the Scottish government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forza ton Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 HB is getting a bit ratty because he knows in his heart yes will win this. I expect this time next week he'll be saying he wasn't that bothered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 HB is getting a bit ratty because he knows in his heart yes will win this. I expect this time next week he'll be saying he wasn't that bothered. Is this H_B? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I know a lot of pupils I teach are voting and will be voting Yes - but that's Dundee and may not be replicated elsewhere. What I do see though is that irrespective of which side they are on the level of understanding of the issues is superficial (bar those that are Modern Studies students). I would agree with this but in West Lothian it's probably no that's shading it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Even if Yes lose it's hard to argue against the train of thought that this campaign has seen a leap forward for the Independence movement as a whole. Not only has the country become more politicised it seems more Scots than ever back the idea of an Independent Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Even if Yes lose it's hard to argue against the train of thought that this campaign has seen a leap forward for the Independence movement as a whole. Not only has the country become more politicised it seems more Scots than ever back the idea of an Independent Scotland. I would agree with this. I think it's definitely moved things forward from a 1/3rd of the electorate to nearer half. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kejan Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 That ICM poll is a cracking figure for Yes considering the last few days. Still behind, but within the margin of error and a bawhair in it. Although more polls to come. Wonder if us canny north Brits will revert back to our boxes after more ''Shock n' aww". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Nah this is H_B 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Condescending pish. Try saying that to my son or any of his mates and you'll have your balls to play with. Given that this the current crop of teenagers will be the generation most affected by this I think it is perfectly reasonable to allow them a say in their own future even if they decide to vote No. There's a VERY strong case for denying 65+ people a vote on this particular issue for the opposite reason. This is democracy. At 16 you are an adult - school or not - and it's time to start giving those people real responsibility. Boaky Oaky VERY strong case for denying over 65's the vote aye? I've read some pish on here, but that takes the urinal cake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Condescending pish. Try saying that to my son or any of his mates and you'll have your balls to play with. Given that this the current crop of teenagers will be the generation most affected by this I think it is perfectly reasonable to allow them a say in their own future even if they decide to vote No. There's a VERY strong case for denying 65+ people a vote on this particular issue for the opposite reason. This is democracy. At 16 you are an adult - school or not - and it's time to start giving those people real responsibility. Boaky Oaky VERY strong case for denying over 65's the vote aye? I've read some pish on here, but that takes the urinal cake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 or maybe this, hard to picture really 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 Condescending pish. Try saying that to my son or any of his mates and you'll have your balls to play with. Given that this the current crop of teenagers will be the generation most affected by this I think it is perfectly reasonable to allow them a say in their own future even if they decide to vote No. There's a VERY strong case for denying 65+ people a vote on this particular issue for the opposite reason. This is democracy. At 16 you are an adult - school or not - and it's time to start giving those people real responsibility. Boaky Oaky VERY strong case for denying over 65's the vote aye? I've read some pish on here, but that takes the urinal cake. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonapersona Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Nah this is H_B H_B is an IT guy? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stumigoo Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I wish polls didn't exist and it was one massive surprise. I can't take this up and down, left and right shit from about fifty different polls being published daily. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Radio 4's numbers and statistics Podcast "More or Less" has a special on the polling companies for the referendum. It's worth a listen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 There's a VERY strong case for denying 65+ people a vote on this particular issue for the opposite reason.. Given what we know about life expectancy in the West that might make sense to you but I just buried my 92 year old Granny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confidemus Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Radio 4's numbers and statistics Podcast "More or Less" has a special on the polling companies for the referendum. It's worth a listen BBC? Nah, you're alright. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) My last canvass tonight. Coming across virtually no undecideds now on doorsteps - less than 5%. Canvassed an area where the houses don't come much below 350k I would guess. Yes on around 60% but if I include people who say they don't want to say as No voters it would be Yes on 52%. Canvassed a few footballers tonight too and now know how half the united team are voting so if you see me with a new hate figure in the United threads you will know why. Edited September 12, 2014 by invergowrie arab 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo99 Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Radio 4's numbers and statistics Podcast "More or Less" has a special on the polling companies for the referendum. It's worth a listen BBC? Nah, you're alright. It's here as a podcast. http://www.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/series/moreorless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 My last canvass tonight. Coming across virtually no undecideds now on doorsteps - less than 5%. Canvassed an area where the houses don't come much below 350k I would guess. Yes on around 60% but if I include people who say they don't want to say as No voters it would be Yes on 52%. Canvassed a few footballers tonight too and now know how half the united team are voting so if you see me with a new hate figure in the United threads you will know why. Just 1 new hate figure for you in the United team? That sounds encouraging. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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