ayrmad Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Agree that a 'No' vote is not likely to create any dramatic moments where we can stand up instantly and say 'this is what you have caused' save for a refusal to give Holyrood any more devolved powers or a well reported retraction of the Barnett formula with no interim measures to offset. What annoys me so much is that we will never be able to know what we could have done with a 'Yes' vote if we vote 'No'. There are elements of the SNP that I'm not overly enamoured with but I do believe that with more influence from other (possibly new) parties we could build a parliament that moves away from the disgraceful behavour we see from the politicians of today (from all persuasions). I'll be honest, on green issues I'm in the tinfoil hat wearing side alongside Reynard and yet I find even the chance that we could produce all our electricty from renewables an exciting prospect, I've openly stated that I've voted Tory since 97 but I realise that when I've listened to speakers talking about poverty and foodbanks my subconcious mind forces me to look downward in shame, effectively I'm taking part of the blame on my own shoulders without realising it at the time. I hope that regardless of outcome this vote acts as a catalyst for a new vision that the majority of us can fall behind, I believe our youth holds the key to that and they are now engaged. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Guardian has a poll at 12:30. If its ICM then there result for Yes\No will likely be "Lib Dems surge ahead". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Guardian has a poll at 12:30. If its ICM then there result for Yes\No will likely be "Lib Dems surge ahead". Combination mobile/landline poll. Will be interesting to see as it's the only ICM phone poll to date - and traditionally Yes have struggled in the Ipsos phone polls. They've brought it forward massively as well which suggests a bad result for Yes as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yeah, and the No campaign has been doing.... what, exactly?I'm not defending the No campaign. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Combination mobile/landline poll. Will be interesting to see as it's the only ICM phone poll to date - and traditionally Yes have struggled in the Ipsos phone polls. They've brought it forward massively as well which suggests a bad result for Yes as well. Young\low income are "poorly represented" in landline polls. ICMs GE polling tends to weight heavily on how you voted last time (hence the big whig dem results compared to others). As for bringing it forward, page hits trump politics with all newspapers today. Any poll will bring in the page hits this week. (Id be willing to guess a largish No lead that means very little) Edited September 12, 2014 by dorlomin 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 51/49 in favour of No. Confirms the recent trend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Scottish referendum too close to call, says ICM pollGuardian/ICM poll finds support for no campaign on 51% and yes on 49% with less than a week to go, but 17% of voters say they have yet to make up their mind 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) I hope all the 16 year olds and a large swathe of the 17 year olds that are voting in this election realise that they won't be voting in the General Election because the UK governement think they are too stupid to understand politics. If they are voting no, do they understand that their opinion then won't matter for another 5 1/2 years. Edited September 12, 2014 by strichener 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Guardian Scotland @GdnScotland 6sEXCLUSIVE: @guardian @ICMResearch telephone poll has #indyref on knife-edge: 51% no vs 49% yes I'll take it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 42 No 40 Yes 17 DK Surprised at the high amount of DK's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy Blonde Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Just been published. Yes 49 No 51. All the polls begining to converge now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 That's a great result for yes, considering the onslaught this week. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Massive change from their last poll. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Yes +4 No -4 Much, much better than I was expecting. Pleased with that. Concern is the high number of DKs. As said before, think it gets to a certain point where the DKs left might be likely No's. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Surely there wouldn't have been many folk under the age of say, 30, polled if it was landline only? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Looks like scaremongering still not having an effect. No Westminister's leaders or Gordon Brown bounce either. What have the No campaign left with a week to go? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 I am literally changing my mind every hour about which way this is going to go. Honestly think there is about 10,000 votes in this either way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 The unprecedented political engagement generated by the campaign shines through in the poll, which finds 87% of respondents describing themselves as “absolutely certain to vote”, far more than the 55% who said the same thing about the next Westminster election in the most recent UK-wide Guardian/ICM poll. Unfickingreal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Screw that, that's a great poll for Yes, on a traditionally bad methodology for yes, No ahead by a literal bawhair, a weke to go and with the onslaught of the last week, the Yes vote held up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross. Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 if 87% say they will definitely vote, then the don't know figure is far too high if you ask me. Does "None of your f*cking business" count as a don't know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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