Mr. Bojangles Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 The same group of people who either were too inept to see the world's worst global recession or, in many cases, too corrupt to blow the whistle and instead lined their trousers and got in the only lifeboat whilst the ship went down. These are definitely the kind of people we want to be listening to. Aye right! Which, ironically, was one of the main causes of the Great Depression. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) The same group of people who either were too inept to see the world's worst global recession or, in many cases, too corrupt to blow the whistle and instead lined their trousers and got in the only lifeboat whilst the ship went down. These are definitely the kind of people we want to be listening to. Aye right! Really? Sub Prime mortgage lending companies knew of the NINJA issues in the US in 2007 and began to tighten lending criteria as far as they could. Greedy politicians were to blame and I think you'll find that the economists did know. They couldn't stop it. In the same way the only support for Salmond's models have come from a fund manager in Aberdeen. The models are predictive and don't factor in the turmoil that Scotland would go through in the "negotiations period". However that's not my point. My point is how well do you think an isolated Scotland will get through this? If there's economic strife and there's no support. Salmond has talked about walking away from debts and ignoring responsibilities. How well do you think negotiations are going to go for an imbecile who has sought to isolate? I'll say it again....think it through Edited September 13, 2014 by Banterous 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Negotiations work two ways and neither side will deliberately harm themselves just to giru the other side 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Negotiations work two ways and neither side will deliberately harm themselves just to giru the other side Absolutely but the rest of the UK aren't going to help Scotland out. A lot of Salmond's assumptions are based around this. It's very worrying... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Well Well Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Absolutely but the rest of the UK aren't going to help Scotland out. A lot of Salmond's assumptions are based around this. It's very worrying... The way you talk you think all Scotland has to bargain with is oil. You are so out of touch 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Labour in Scotland must be seething at the vast numbers of traditional Labour voters who are supporting YES. Their canvassers must be getting it thrown in their faces on the doorstep. Rather than addressing the question as to why they'll probably just repeat some of the nonsense that's been spouted on here about Salmond's influence. They're traditionally bad losers, but don't learn from their mistakes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassiveFanDan Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) the rest of the UK aren't going to help Scotland out. Nobody expects them to. They haven't so far, and independence won't make any difference to that. They will act for what they perceive to be their own best interests, just like now. Edited September 13, 2014 by MassiveFanDan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Panelbase have a poll for the Sunday Times tonight and Opinium (who?) Are doing one for the Observer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leggy Blonde Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Survation have just released one with No 54 Yes 46. Done by telephone apparently too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Survation poll just released on Sky News says 54-46 No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Nobody expects them to. They haven't so far, and independence won't make any difference to that. They will act for what they perceive to be their own best interests, just like now. Oh dear. You really haven't thought about this have you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Survation poll just released on Sky News says 54-46 No. Stop this!!! I've had it with all this SCAREMONGERING! allegations of something that'll involve investigations!!!! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Commissioned by Better Together that poll, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Stop this!!! I've had it with all this SCAREMONGERING! allegations of something that'll involve investigations!!!! You seem like an intelligent, well-rounded person. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Survation poll just released on Sky News says 54-46 No. First one for a while outside 3% of the 50 mark. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) ^^^Commissioned by Better Together apparently. The Sun's Yougov poll last weekend set the tone for the next few days, so quite sensible on their part to try to preempt something similar. Edited September 13, 2014 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banterous Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 You seem like an intelligent, well-rounded person. I've listened to both sides and the Yes vote will involve way too much risk for me. That and the fact that the leader of the campaign hasn't alleviated one of my concerns make me as an intelligent, well rounded person vote No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/8980 Two more out today. Later on we have an Opinium Scottish poll for the Observer, due at 8 o’clock, and a Panelbase for the Sunday Times. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJohnboy Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Survation have just released one with No 54 Yes 46. Done by telephone apparently too. I always tell unsolicited telephone callers to fuckoff. Good manners cost nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QPSAFalkirkFirm Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 First one for a while outside 3% of the 50 mark. Do you seriously give any credence to these orchestrated polls. they are a very small survey group with very little appropriate filtering of demographics. I see you're along way off from home but what's happening on the streets today is phenomenal and paints a very different picture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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