Kyle Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Unless circumstances dramatically change over the next few years, another referendum in the next parliament would be utterly moronic. That's why it won't happen. I want an independent Scotland as much as anyone but having a referendum in the next parliament would be sheer stupidity. Correct. The SNP know better than to put it in their manifesto and will receive more support as a result. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Can't even believe it's up for debate tbh, there's almost no circumstances were I could see another referendum in the next Scottish parliament being a good idea for both the SNP and the independence movement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Panel base poll SNP45% LAB28% CON15% UKIP: 7% Lib Dem: 3% Green: 1% if #indyref was tomorrow how would you vote? Yes: 51% No: 49% WOW!!!!! The fact that 28% would still vote Labour is astonishing. It seems you can indeed fool some of the people all of the time. The 7% for UKIP is worrying; nowhere near English levels but still 7% too many. Maybe if the mainstream parties (including the SNP) addressed EU issues the support for this lot would wane. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkston5 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Granny considers it "worrying" that anyone would have a contrary opinion to him. That's frightening..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Panel base poll SNP45% LAB28% CON15% UKIP: 7% Lib Dem: 3% Green: 1% if #indyref was tomorrow how would you vote? Yes: 51% No: 49% WOW!!!!! You have to love them "Nat's", all the way up to the #indyref was the only poll that matters is the 18th of September, but now the polls are good for them and now they are really important, hypocrites, that is all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 ^^^ Word salad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Can't even believe it's up for debate tbh, there's almost no circumstances were I could see another referendum in the next Scottish parliament being a good idea for both the SNP and the independence movement.unionist parties would love another referendum. Could the SNP afford to not put one in their manifesto given their grassroots support for one? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 unionist parties would love another referendum. Could the SNP afford to not put one in their manifesto given their grassroots support for one? 60000 new members all expect it to be in the manifesto, depends how they do in 2015, but we will wait and see 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Mints Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 60000 new members all expect it to be in the manifesto, depends how they do in 2015, but we will wait and see Incorrect. Again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Incorrect. Again. go on then correct me, am all ears 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Mints Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 go on then correct me, am all ears Well I joined. Hope this helps. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecto Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Well I joined. Hope this helps. you are confi, you have all the traits 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Mints Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 you are confi, you have all the traits Incorrect. Again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 60000 new members all expect it to be in the manifesto, depends how they do in 2015, but we will wait and see Where does this idea come from? I know one of the guys who has joined and he isn't particularly looking for a referendum in the next parliament. It appears to be a Reynard invention - to somehow create a story when the manifesto is released. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBamboo Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 60000 new members all expect it to be in the manifesto, depends how they do in 2015, but we will wait and see I don't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Where does this idea come from? I know one of the guys who has joined and he isn't particularly looking for a referendum in the next parliament. It appears to be a Reynard invention - to somehow create a story when the manifesto is released. 2 guys in my work are new members. Neither of them want another referendum anytime soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Mints Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 This is where ECTO should retract his irrational ramblings. Here's hoping he'll be back tonight to admit his many failings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haggis pakora Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Where does this idea come from? I know one of the guys who has joined and he isn't particularly looking for a referendum in the next parliament. It appears to be a Reynard invention - to somehow create a story when the manifesto is released. Have a look at cokkitos or whatever his moniker is and you will see how fragile some SNP supporters are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I joined the SNP following the referendum result. I'd like to see a commitment to another referendum in the manifesto. I won't burst into tears if it isn't. Anidotal stuff like this is pretty irrelevant. In politics each of us is driven by his/her personal experience and vision. I am now convinced that the best option for the Scottish people in the coming decades is independence. I think the spin off benefits for the rest of the UK would be very positive. The sooner it happens the better, though there are practical considerations. Immediately post the referendum I thought it would be at least 15 years until the next referendum. I am now confident that it will be before then. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broomhill Ultra Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I'm a new SNP member. I don't want or expect to see a commitment to referendum in manifesto. Another loss really would kill the idea for at least 30 years. Let's go for 5-8 years for indyref 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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