Fullerene Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 10 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Maggie with only 10%, must be recency bias at play there. After the shellacking the Tories take at the next GE, I am expecting them to attempt to re-animate her corpse or clone her. She stopped being Prime Minister 34 years ago. I suspect a lot of people will choose someone whose leadership has happened in their lifetime. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 minute ago, itzdrk said: David Cameron who had a policy which actively killed people beating Gordon Brown Big Dave is criminally low there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 16 minutes ago, D Angelo Barksdale said: Big Dave is criminally low there. It’s Byline times. Their readership are the biggest wet wipes in the country. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 9 hours ago, D Angelo Barksdale said: There's already an element of it now, but in the years to come I think we'll see a move to slowly phase out the WW2 and Churchill nostalgia that certain types hark back to and replace it with Maggie as a time when Britain was great. Really ? I'd be stunned if Britain gave up its massive stauner for the war anytime soon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said: Really ? I'd be stunned if Britain gave up its massive stauner for the war anytime soon. It would if we started another one. Just a thought. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said: Really ? I'd be stunned if England gave up its massive stauner for the war anytime soon. FTFY. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 7 minutes ago, TheScarf said: FTFY. Plenty of your Rool Britannia types up here too, Facebook profiles awash with your poppy, spitfires and veterans stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 On 16/02/2024 at 11:41, Dunning1874 said: Always a tricky business basing what will happen in a GE on by-elections, but this seems a fairly likely outcome for England and Wales. Labour staying around their 2019 vote in real terms and that being enough to sweep them to a landslide majority, as the Tory vote disappears with a small portion of it going to Reform but the vast majority just staying at home. Which in turn means you'd think it wouldn't take long in opposition for the Tory vote to rebound and Labour to be scrambling in the polls within a year of government once some crisis or other hits, but if the Tories have done so badly they end up below 100 seats all bets are off in terms of what happens from there, what nutter they elect as leader and how fragmented they become. Hopefully the tories fall into the trap of putting their wildest right wing fantasies in their manifesto. Then it will be difficult for the likes of Braverman to lead the Tories imo when they still lose the election later this year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 15 hours ago, Caledonian1 said: He forgot how to spell Dawson Park Boy? Is that who he is? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 18 minutes ago, sparky88 said: Hopefully the tories fall into the trap of putting their wildest right wing fantasies in their manifesto. Then it will be difficult for the likes of Braverman to lead the Tories imo when they still lose the election later this year. I think it's inevitable they will lurch to the right in the wake of the GE result. It's pretty much the old "swivel-eyed" eurosceptic lot ruling the roost right now, hence why there has been practically no actual governance since 2019. I can't see many of the ideologues having an epiphany because the electorate overwhelmingly rejected them, more likely they will conclude they simply were not right-wing enough, and the cycle of appointing easily manipulated arseholes with tons of personal ambition and no actual understanding of government will continue. I think it's nailed-on to be some absolute horror of a human being like Badenoch or Braverman, and complete idiots will still genuinely try to argue they are the party of equality and opportunity because "look, brown woman" despite the fact that some of the very worst examples of Tory politicians are brown and/or women. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 25 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: Is that who he is? Not entirely sure butI have a feeling it may well be. It will be confirmed if he refers to the Truss / Kwasy Kwasi Kwateng budget as "excactly the right budgetary measures at the right time" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 14 hours ago, D Angelo Barksdale said: Big Dave is criminally low there. He is solely responsible for the entire Tory shitshow that followed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 16 hours ago, Trogdor said: Maggie with only 10%, must be recency bias at play there. After the shellacking the Tories take at the next GE, I am expecting them to attempt to re-animate her corpse or clone her. They tried it with Truss but the wiring kept shorting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 4 hours ago, Caledonian1 said: Not entirely sure butI have a feeling it may well be. It will be confirmed if he refers to the Truss / Kwasy Kwasi Kwateng budget as "excactly the right budgetary measures at the right time" "If you think my view that Hitler was left-wing is outre, you should talk to my awful wife! I admit that I don't know much about this or any other issue, but always happy to listen to other views" The fascists calling themselves centre-right is part of the effort to reposition the Overton window and make their views acceptable again. They literally discuss this with each other, and consider the general populace untermensch for allowing them to do it (among other reasons). Also, Thatcher was a great Prime Minister. She did exactly what she set out to do, in the same way that whichever suicidal world leader is successful in starting the nuclear holocaust will also have been. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) 37 minutes ago, BFTD said: The fascists calling themselves centre-right is part of the effort to reposition the Overton window and make their views acceptable again. They literally discuss this with each other, and consider the general populace untermensch for allowing them to do it (among other reasons). The other trick is ridiculing anyone to the left of them as "woke", which has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. Edited February 17 by welshbairn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The other trick is labelling anyone to the left of them as "woke", which has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. Can't we switch back to "right-on"? I always preferred that to PC. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 minutes ago, BFTD said: Can't we switch back to "right-on"? I always preferred that to PC. PC usually just meant old fashioned politeness that you'd think Rees Mogg types would be in favour of. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 44 minutes ago, welshbairn said: The other trick is ridiculing anyone to the left of them as "woke", which has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams. Yep - it's used to close down debate - unfortunately there's a lot of gullible people who lap that sort of thing up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Polling analysis shows middle to upper income Scottish voters moving away from the SNP and toward Labour. https://archive.ph/wQ12F Think that should skip the paywall? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 Im always suspicious of Polls and Im not sure the SNP will face as bad an election as is at times predicted. The times has an article on this polling and theres a few points stand out. Voting the Tories out is a priority it seems for a lot of voters in Scotland and thats why Labour is being considered. Regardless of how Salmond is viewed now, his time as FM is looked on as being well run and Indy was always moving forward. Now the SNP is looked on as having "run out of steam" under Sturgeon. Yousaf as FM hasnt changed that and maybe made it seem even worse and leaderless at the moment. I wonder how many SNP members who voted for Yousaf are happy with where the party is now?. Did anyone on here want Yousaf as leader and how do they think he is doing? Whats the general consensus on him so far within the SNP voter base? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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