Baxter Parp Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 You are a monumental cretin. Scheffer's view is not supported even by the White Paper. The SNP now ADMIT that a treaty amendment, ratified by every single member-state, is necessary to ensure Scottish EU membership absent a fresh application (also to be ratified by every single member-state) in the event of independence. The presence of these veto powers and amendment procedures means that the terms of the political discussion about Scotland's membership terms is shifted significantly, and the proposed SNP timetable puts more pressure on that. This is ultimately the point that is underpinned by Professors Boyle, Crawford, Happold, Tierney and Armstrong in their analysis about the how and what of Scottish membership of the EU. Neither you or any member of the Clown Collective have managed to explain to us exactly how "politics" trumps the Treaty provisions. Can you please be extremely specific exactly how the ratification process will be waived or accelerated? How you expect a UK Government initiated amendment to the TEU will be in force, with equally favourable terms as the UK has just now, between 19th September and 24th March 2016, between which there is a UK General Election, a greatly restricted timetable in which both to legislate domestically and in the EU (bear in mind all legislation initiated but not passed by about March 2015 will die on Parliament's dissolution)? Shouting "politics trumps law" here is the refuge of the person with no appreciation of the institutional workings of either the British state or the European Union. Does exactly what VT accused him of, then calls him a cretin. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 More white noise from the Cheese and Wine function, truly impressive dedication to the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broccoli Dog Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 UNCERTAINTY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davi3j Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 "We dont need patrol boats...we've got facebook" Philip Hammond http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-news/8718-russian-ship-in-moray-firth-uk-intelligence-was-alerted-by-social-media-admits-hammond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-26132806 shit the bed, the political editor at pacific quay must be off his work. Assertion stated as fact in BBC news headline is par of the course when BT are spouting it but this is a pro Yes one !! Just a set up for bbc 2 top ten battlegrounds programme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 A post referendum election ? How will this work in accordance with the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011? Or should we delay all the processes and negotiations until after May 2016? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todders Posted February 11, 2014 Author Share Posted February 11, 2014 Neither you or any member of the Clown Collective have managed to explain to us exactly ... Do you really expect to be taken seriously as a supposed Yes voter when you're using uber-unionist terms like "Clown Collective"? Pull the other one! You're a unionist through and through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Do you really expect to be taken seriously as a supposed Yes voter when you're using uber-unionist terms like "Clown Collective"? Pull the other one! You're a unionist through and through. Think the law squad are pissed off that the ncc are stealing there thunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint dave Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Think the law squad are pissed off that the ncc are stealing there thunder The Law Squad are the Inane Clown Posse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ad Lib Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Do you really expect to be taken seriously as a supposed Yes voter when you're using uber-unionist terms like "Clown Collective"? Pull the other one! You're a unionist through and through. I believe in being abusively critical of idiots whatever their political persuasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I believe in being abusively critical of idiots whatever their political persuasion. This is the abusive idiot that used criticise people for playing the man not the ball, folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Just a set up for bbc 2 top ten battlegrounds programme Anyone see this? Any good? I was out last night so didn't see it and won't get a chance to watch it until tomorrow but the programme was made by a guy I know's dad so I'm interested to see it. I'm told that his description of it was 'It will annoy both sides, and that is what it is supposed to do.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 "We dont need patrol boats...we've got facebook" Philip Hammond http://newsnetscotland.com/index.php/scottish-news/8718-russian-ship-in-moray-firth-uk-intelligence-was-alerted-by-social-media-admits-hammond I don't understand why that's even a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamamafegan Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/independent-scotland-will-not-be-allowed-to-use-british-oxygen-2014021283498 Big blow to our Independence hopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davi3j Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I don't understand why that's even a story. You dont think its an issue when the governments "intelligence" has to rely on a public posting to find out that a foreign powers military is camping in their territory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Cort's Hamstring Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 You dont think its an issue when the governments "intelligence" has to rely on a public posting to find out that a foreign powers military is camping in their territory? According to the video clip the Russians had informed NATO of their plans, and if they were in the Moray Firth it means they were pretty close to RAF Lossiemouth, and I think it's unlikely that we're about to be attacked by the Russian Navy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 According to the video clip the Russians had informed NATO of their plans, and if they were in the Moray Firth it means they were pretty close to RAF Lossiemouth, ...and? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubbs Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 How will this work in accordance with the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011? Or should we delay all the processes and negotiations until after May 2016? The provisions allow for early elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davi3j Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 According to the video clip the Russians had informed NATO of their plans, and if they were in the Moray Firth it means they were pretty close to RAF Lossiemouth, and I think it's unlikely that we're about to be attacked by the Russian Navy Wrong, try listening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 The provisions allow for early elections. Does it, please provide a link or give me the section number that allows for a Scottish election to be called early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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