Tommy Nooka Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 A mixture of shock, relief and a tv camera in your face could make a few nice enough people look like dicks. I'm not sure, he has very detectable dickish aura about him, doesn't look like he's in shock at all. And let's face it, decent people don't need to buy a wife. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Am I the only one that thought this guy came across as a total dick? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-28361872 He smirks and smiles his way through the whole interview. Yeah, it was strange, but I'm guessing he's in shock so let's not judge him 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 And let's face it, decent people don't need to buy a wife. I did, but then again, it only cost me a few cable ties and some gaffer tape. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drooper Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Yeah, it was strange, but I'm guessing he's in shock so let's not judge him This is P&B, let's! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyBear Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 2 Newcastle fans killed on their way to watch them in New Zealand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Very sad. One of the lads killed had only missed one Newcastle game, home or away, league, cup, friendly, since 1973. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) Looks like Malaysian Airlines are playing it safe today, flying south of Ukraine, just heading for Crimean airspace at the mo. http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS17 Edited July 18, 2014 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Ah the peaceful Crimea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Looks like Malaysian Airlines are playing it safe today, flying south of Ukraine, just heading for Crimean airspace at the mo. http://uk.flightaware.com/live/flight/MAS17 That website describes yesterday's flight as "result unknown". The TV pictures show a definite result imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Sorry if a bit morbid, but how come the pile of passports shown in some papers this morning weren't even slightly charred? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Sorry if a bit morbid, but how come the pile of passports shown in some papers this morning weren't even slightly charred? Doesn't take a huge explosion to down an aircraft, and bits fly everywhere on the way down. Many bodies and passports would have landed well away from the fuel tanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Sorry if a bit morbid, but how come the pile of passports shown in some papers this morning weren't even slightly charred? Because the bodies weren't charred. An anti-aircraft missile doesn't just go up like a bomb, they can be the kind that target engines, which on civilian airliners are out on the wings and away from the passengers. Or they can be radar missiles which will home in on the fuselage but most missiles use proximity fuses which send out a cloud of shrapnel that shreds the plane. The Sea Dart missile the Navy used in the Falklands went off in front of the target and released a massive steel net which the plane flew into and shredded itself. So the airliner wasn't destroyed by a big flash bang explosion. Big holes were knocked in it and/or big pieces sliced off. The big bits with fuel in them went bang and burned when they hit the ground but debris was spread over a large area (like Lockerbie) making it easy to collect the passports from the hand luggage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Because the bodies weren't charred. An anti-aircraft missile doesn't just go up like a bomb, they can be the kind that target engines, which on civilian airliners are out on the wings and away from the passengers. Or they can be radar missiles which will home in on the fuselage but most missiles use proximity fuses which send out a cloud of shrapnel that shreds the plane. The Sea Dart missile the Navy used in the Falklands went off in front of the target and released a massive steel net which the plane flew into and shredded itself. So the airliner wasn't destroyed by a big flash bang explosion. Big holes were knocked in it and/or big pieces sliced off. The big bits with fuel in them went bang and burned when they hit the ground but debris was spread over a large area (like Lockerbie) making it easy to collect the passports from the hand luggage. Cheers. So effectively they are disabling devices that result largely in catastrophic failure but rarely explode unless the fuel source is hit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Pretty much 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Russia now saying no Buk system crossed the UKR-RUS border. I'm glad that has cleared everything up... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 The Sea Dart missile the Navy used in the Falklands went off in front of the target and released a massive steel net which the plane flew into and shredded itself. Wow. That's sounds like something Dick Dastardly would have used. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbornbairn Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Wow. That's sounds like something Dick Dastardly would have used. Yeah, I can't find anything online about it but in this pic you see the four rockets that were attached to the corners of the net and spread it out when they fired. Pretty effective and I think it's the only missile to have shot down an anti-shipping missile in anger too, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinkerbelle Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I hope it doesn't happen but it is likely that some of the personal stuff will be looted due to the general lack of security in the area. That will possibly make it very difficult to find out what exactly did happen. I think after Lockerbie the authorities were able to rebuild a lot of the wreckage to get a better picture of what really happened there. I doubt if they will be really able to do much the same in this case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) They'll struggle to get to the bottom of this if the main suspects are also controlling the region that the debris is in. Putin already lying about who caused it. Edited July 18, 2014 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Putin already lying about who caused it. Bird strike - nothing to see here... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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