Gnash Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 6 hours ago, nsr said: What do they do that the buses don't? Go from the city centre to the park and ride without going in a ridiculous circuitous route that takes 45 min+ at rush hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, Gnash said: Go from the city centre to the park and ride without going in a ridiculous circuitous route that takes 45 min+ at rush hour. The one time I went on it from the Airport to Waverley it was unbearably slow. Should have saved the money for a bit and built a Hyperloop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 There was a document issued last year I think that talked about the cost:benefit ratio of the new line. Running it to Ocean Terminal actually had a better cost:benefit ratio than extending the line to Newhaven. I'm not quite sure where the exact boundary is between Leith and Newhaven but it can't be too far beyond Ocean Terminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 The original plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Prince Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Cannot be arsed with any more of these fucking abysmal trams. Fucking shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Tout P'ti FC Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 The original plan That Phase 3 spur is bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Gnash said: Go from the city centre to the park and ride without going in a ridiculous circuitous route that takes 45 min+ at rush hour. Couldn't they just have put on an express bus service to do the same thing? Trams go on the same roads as the buses, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, nsr said: Couldn't they just have put on an express bus service to do the same thing? Trams go on the same roads as the buses, right? Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Prince Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Couldn't they just have put on an express bus service to do the same thing? Trams go on the same roads as the buses, right? No they go off road at haymarket and still get to the airport slower than the airport bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I was thinking about the city centre rather than further out. They must go on the roads in the city centre? There's nowhere else they could go unless some buildings were bulldozed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Couldn't they just have put on an express bus service to do the same thing? Trams go on the same roads as the buses, right? They have there own dedicated route as far as Haymarket and then on road to St Andrew square. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnash Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 8 hours ago, nsr said: Couldn't they just have put on an express bus service to do the same thing? Yes, but there isn't one. Crazily, there is an express airport bus that passes the P+R but doesn't actually stop there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 9 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: The original plan So this new build is not even a next phase, It's completing PHASE 1A 9 hours ago, Le Tout P'ti FC said: That Phase 3 spur is bizarre. Phase 3 - Covers ECC councillors home addresses probably, O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 The OBC (Section 3.4) mentions a peak reduction of 6 buses when the trams come in. It's not clear if this is six bus services (highly unlikely) or just six buses (per day, per hour?) but if it's the latter it doesn't really seem much of a "saving". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Is there still going to be a stop for the foot of the walk? Asking for a mate. ETA how were they planning on building the tram out towards Granton? That road is hellish even in a car with all the cars parked on road and there is no room for a tram unless you divert the traffic or build a separate platform over the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, L. Brilliant said: The tram's guid apart from east end. Always hoped there would be potential for a subcrawl-type pub crawl off the tram route but it's pretty crap. Maybe more potential if that loop ever gets built. This has been discussed on here before, you can do it but it's a little sketchy. 24 minutes ago, throbber said: ETA how were they planning on building the tram out towards Granton? That road is hellish even in a car with all the cars parked on road and there is no room for a tram unless you divert the traffic or build a separate platform over the water. Considering how much it cost them to build one tram line of about ten miles I can't even imagine how much money they'd need for an over water platform to Granton. It'd probably be cheaper to fly commuters about in stealth bombers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 11 hours ago, welshbairn said: The one time I went on it from the Airport to Waverley it was unbearably slow. Should have saved the money for a bit and built a Hyperloop. Same. I could have jogged to the airport quicker. It's official journey time is slower than the airport bus (100). Still don't understand why they didn't just stick a train station at the airport seeing as the train line goes through the edge of the airport anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 That Phase 3 spur is bizarre. There are two possible reasons I can think ofFirstly that's where the M8 meets the M9 it would be a good place for a giant park and rideSecondly Newbridge is basically city limits. The Newbridge spur would give West Lothian the option to connect in to the network but they'd have to pay for it west of the border Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 They must be at it with the proposed plans, right? Hoping to provoke a reaction from the public so they can use it as an excuse not to build? Leith Walk/Leith Street/York Place/Picardy Place essentially shut for a couple of years would be an absolute riot. Easter Road is a shite enough route as it is without using it as a major diversion route. I still don't understand why they don't have express trams either for airport traffic. York Place, Princes St, Haymarket, Airport. Simple, no? I'd use that for the airport but the fact of the matter is it's cheaper and quicker to drive, and pay for parking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Same. I could have jogged to the airport quicker. You couldn't if you had a load of luggage though you imbecile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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