shootingboots Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 4 hours ago, betting competition said: Well done to Derek McInnes on his move to Rangers (Sky Sports News) Happy birthday m8. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BucksburnDandy Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Glad it is sorted before Sunday. Not been a fun season but always nice to get our normal pre season trips around Europe 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Would be good to get 2nd place and avoid the 1st round banana skin. Still think we'll need Hibs to do us a favour unfortunately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akredz Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 As long as Hibs can do their usual 3 -2 against the ****, it won't matter what we do. But it would be nice to get a point at least, and maybe score a goal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) I’m sure Hibs will still be up for the game but not sure Lennon throwing the players under the bus tonight will help morale going into it. Edited May 9, 2018 by Rodhull 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellAnderson Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, Rodhull said: I’m sure Hibs will still be up for the game but not sure Lennon throwing the players under the bus tonight will help morale going into it. Lennon's been doing that all season. It seems to have worked before. He fuckin hates the **** as much as any of us so I'm sure he'll be right up for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) On 4/23/2018 at 16:43, betting competition said: Just looking at Aberdeen League Points stats since 3 points was introduced in the Scottish game from the season 1994-1995 (Hopefully correct info below). 36 games a season 1994-1995 - 41 points 1995-1996 - 55 points 1996-1997 - 44 points 1997-1998 - 39 points 1998-1999 - 37 points 1999-2000 - 33 points 38 games a season 2000-2001 - 45 points 2001-2002 - 55 points 2002-2003 - 49 points 2003-2004 - 34 points 2004-2005 - 61 points 2005-2006 - 54 points 2006-2007 - 65 points 2007-2008 - 53 points 2008-2009 - 53 points 2009-2010 - 41 points 2010-2011 - 38 points 2011-2012 - 41 points 2012-2013 - 48 pointsDerek McInnes 2013-2014 - 68 points 2014-2015 - 75 points 2015-2016 - 71 points 2016-2017 - 76 points 2017-2018 - 65 points (4 games still to be played) The reason I've done this stats is to wonder why minority of Aberdeen fans want McInnes out when in the 24 years apart from 2 season from Jimmy Calderwood we have got nowhere near the points total that Derek McInnes teams have achieved? I suppose some arguments will be that for a few seasons it was a weaker league and many will be unhappy with our record against Rangers/Celtic in last few seasons. Some may also argue that the football this season hasn't been the level of the last 3 or 4 seasons. Others may also go on about only 1 trophy won since McInnes come in. I've got a feeling this could be Derek McInnes last season in charge of us but I feel he has done a fantastic job and don't think there is anyone out there that can do a better job at present Funny, I did exactly the same thing and for the same reason, then came on here to see what was being said lately. I made a graph with Aberdeen's points-per-game going back to 1970, giving 3 points for a win - see below. I used points-per-game to iron out the differences between the lengths of seasons. There's no doubt that the past four years have been the best for Aberdeen since the early 90s, and consistently the best since Fergie left. When this season ends it'll be the best five years. It's a different game now and comparisons with that period wouldn't be fair. - put it this way, the last time Aberdeen broke 1.75 points per game, the Scottish League was ranked 10th in Europe and Aberdeen were ranked just above Stuttgart, Gothenburg and Arsenal. The last time Aberdeen hit 2 points per game, which they did last season, was in 1985, when they were ranked 13th in Europe and Dundee Utd were 8th. The relative weakness of Rangers doesn't explain how Aberdeen have gathered these points, because they've struggled to beat Rangers anyway! Excuses can be made about Hearts and Hibs, but Hibs have barely troubled to top end of the league in the past 25 years and Hearts have only done so sporadically. The past four years for Aberdeen haven't just been the best for them in the past 25 years, they've been the best for ANY team outside the Old Firm since the mid 80s. And even if they lose on Sunday, they'll have 1.84 points-per-game for this season, making it 5 consecutive seasons better than any season since 1993, and they'll have done it despite losing several key players last summer. Take a bow, Mr McInnes. Edited May 9, 2018 by GordonS 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 4 hours ago, GordonS said: Funny, I did exactly the same thing and for the same reason, then came on here to see what was being said lately. I made a graph with Aberdeen's points-per-game going back to 1970, giving 3 points for a win - see below. I used points-per-game to iron out the differences between the lengths of seasons. There's no doubt that the past four years have been the best for Aberdeen since the early 90s, and consistently the best since Fergie left. When this season ends it'll be the best five years. It's a different game now and comparisons with that period wouldn't be fair. - put it this way, the last time Aberdeen broke 1.75 points per game, the Scottish League was ranked 10th in Europe and Aberdeen were ranked just above Stuttgart, Gothenburg and Arsenal. The last time Aberdeen hit 2 points per game, which they did last season, was in 1985, when they were ranked 13th in Europe and Dundee Utd were 8th. The relative weakness of Rangers doesn't explain how Aberdeen have gathered these points, because they've struggled to beat Rangers anyway! Excuses can be made about Hearts and Hibs, but Hibs have barely troubled to top end of the league in the past 25 years and Hearts have only done so sporadically. The past four years for Aberdeen haven't just been the best for them in the past 25 years, they've been the best for ANY team outside the Old Firm since the mid 80s. And even if they lose on Sunday, they'll have 1.84 points-per-game for this season, making it 5 consecutive seasons better than any season since 1993, and they'll have done it despite losing several key players last summer. Take a bow, Mr McInnes. Top stat and graph skills. Any chance of adding vertical lines/ colour coding to mark the tenures of various managers? for comparability, we also need to take into account that a 10 team league meant slightly more harder games and fewer easier ones. Also, from about 1999 to 2010 we were ahead of the curve on pennypinching while less scrupulous clubs were on debt fuelled spending binges. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betting competition Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, GordonS said: The past four years for Aberdeen haven't just been the best for them in the past 25 years, they've been the best for ANY team outside the Old Firm since the mid 80s. And even if they lose on Sunday, they'll have 1.84 points-per-game for this season, making it 5 consecutive seasons better than any season since 1993, and they'll have done it despite losing several key players last summer. Very nice graph I've also did the best team outside the old firm since 1994-1995 season - Only Hearts in 2005/2006 season have beat our points total this season which many Aberdeen fans class this season performances as very poor: 36 games 1994/1995: Motherwell – 54 points 1995/1996: Aberdeen – 55 points 1996/1997: Dundee United – 60 points 1997/1998: Heart of Midlothian – 67 points 1998/1999: St Johnstone – 57 points 1999/2000: Heart of Midlothian – 54 points 38 games 2000/2001: Hibernian – 66 points 2001/2002: Livingston – 58 points 2002/2003: Heart of Midlothian – 63 points 2003/2004: Heart of Midlothian – 68 points 2004/2005: Hibernian – 61 points 2005/2006: Heart of Midlothian – 74 points 2006/2007: Aberdeen – 65 points 2007/2008: Motherwell – 60 points 2008/2009: Heart of Midlothian – 59 points 2009/2010: Dundee United – 63 points 2010/2011: Heart of Midlothian – 63 points 2011/2012: Motherwell – 62 points Rangers Liquidated 2012/2013: Motherwell – 63 points 2013/2014: Motherwell – 70 points 2014/2015: Aberdeen – 75 points 2015/2016: Aberdeen – 71 points 2016/2017: Aberdeen – 76 points 2017/2018: Aberdeen – 70 points (1 game to go) Edited May 10, 2018 by betting competition 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Mutt Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, betting competition said: Rangers Liquidated This part of you're data makes no sense. There's no such thing as "the old firm" to be the top team outside of anymore . Bits not the old firm - Don't let the media convince you otherwise. And never let the **** forget their new team is a tribute act. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 9 hours ago, GordonS said: Funny, I did exactly the same thing and for the same reason, then came on here to see what was being said lately. I made a graph with Aberdeen's points-per-game going back to 1970, giving 3 points for a win - see below. I used points-per-game to iron out the differences between the lengths of seasons. There's no doubt that the past four years have been the best for Aberdeen since the early 90s, and consistently the best since Fergie left. When this season ends it'll be the best five years. It's a different game now and comparisons with that period wouldn't be fair. - put it this way, the last time Aberdeen broke 1.75 points per game, the Scottish League was ranked 10th in Europe and Aberdeen were ranked just above Stuttgart, Gothenburg and Arsenal. The last time Aberdeen hit 2 points per game, which they did last season, was in 1985, when they were ranked 13th in Europe and Dundee Utd were 8th. The relative weakness of Rangers doesn't explain how Aberdeen have gathered these points, because they've struggled to beat Rangers anyway! Excuses can be made about Hearts and Hibs, but Hibs have barely troubled to top end of the league in the past 25 years and Hearts have only done so sporadically. The past four years for Aberdeen haven't just been the best for them in the past 25 years, they've been the best for ANY team outside the Old Firm since the mid 80s. And even if they lose on Sunday, they'll have 1.84 points-per-game for this season, making it 5 consecutive seasons better than any season since 1993, and they'll have done it despite losing several key players last summer. Take a bow, Mr McInnes. Excellent post and a great yardstick of performance. That some people want this man sacked or have done is utter lunacy, although I suppose that makes me a happy clapper. He has his faults, results (and performances) in big games are infuriating of course but I still have much love for oor Derek. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 12 minutes ago, R.Mutt said: This part of you're data makes no sense. There's no such thing as "the old firm" to be the top team outside of anymore . Bits not the old firm - Don't let the media convince you otherwise. And never let the **** forget their new team is a tribute act. Calm down, whether or not there is an 'old firm' is utter semantics. It doesn't change the fact that there was/are two clubs with a huge distinction in resources to the rest of the league. Whether you like it or not separating them as part of this data set is entirely relevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 9 hours ago, GordonS said: Funny, I did exactly the same thing and for the same reason, then came on here to see what was being said lately. I made a graph with Aberdeen's points-per-game going back to 1970, giving 3 points for a win - see below. I used points-per-game to iron out the differences between the lengths of seasons. There's no doubt that the past four years have been the best for Aberdeen since the early 90s, and consistently the best since Fergie left. When this season ends it'll be the best five years. It's a different game now and comparisons with that period wouldn't be fair. - put it this way, the last time Aberdeen broke 1.75 points per game, the Scottish League was ranked 10th in Europe and Aberdeen were ranked just above Stuttgart, Gothenburg and Arsenal. The last time Aberdeen hit 2 points per game, which they did last season, was in 1985, when they were ranked 13th in Europe and Dundee Utd were 8th. The relative weakness of Rangers doesn't explain how Aberdeen have gathered these points, because they've struggled to beat Rangers anyway! Excuses can be made about Hearts and Hibs, but Hibs have barely troubled to top end of the league in the past 25 years and Hearts have only done so sporadically. The past four years for Aberdeen haven't just been the best for them in the past 25 years, they've been the best for ANY team outside the Old Firm since the mid 80s. And even if they lose on Sunday, they'll have 1.84 points-per-game for this season, making it 5 consecutive seasons better than any season since 1993, and they'll have done it despite losing several key players last summer. Take a bow, Mr McInnes. Whilst the statistics are excellent, your formatting leaves a lot to be desired. Ditch the black background and the gradient graph background. I also dont like graph titles that sit outside the graph. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraniteGype Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 That some people want this man sacked or have done is utter lunacy, although I suppose that makes me a happy clapper. He has his faults, results (and performances) in big games are infuriating of course but I still have much love for oor Derek. Absolutely. The mind boggles at the bipolar conditions shown by some fans towards AFC and McInnes. This season will probably be very forgettable and could have / should have been better - Deek, Milne, and the players will certainly be thinking that too. But we have done just about OK all things considered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paddymcp Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, betting competition said: Very nice graph I've also did the best team outside the old firm since 1994-1995 season - Only Hearts in 2005/2006 season have beat our points total this season which many Aberdeen fans class this season performances as very poor: 36 games 1994/1995: Motherwell – 54 points 1995/1996: Aberdeen – 55 points 1996/1997: Dundee United – 60 points 1997/1998: Heart of Midlothian – 67 points 1998/1999: St Johnstone – 57 points 1999/2000: Heart of Midlothian – 54 points 38 games 2000/2001: Hibernian – 66 points 2001/2002: Livingston – 58 points 2002/2003: Heart of Midlothian – 63 points 2003/2004: Heart of Midlothian – 68 points 2004/2005: Hibernian – 61 points 2005/2006: Heart of Midlothian – 74 points 2006/2007: Aberdeen – 65 points 2007/2008: Motherwell – 60 points 2008/2009: Heart of Midlothian – 59 points 2009/2010: Dundee United – 63 points 2010/2011: Heart of Midlothian – 63 points 2011/2012: Motherwell – 62 points Rangers Liquidated 2012/2013: Motherwell – 63 points 2013/2014: Motherwell – 70 points 2014/2015: Aberdeen – 75 points 2015/2016: Aberdeen – 71 points 2016/2017: Aberdeen – 76 points 2017/2018: Aberdeen – 70 points (1 game to go) Let’s be honest Aberdeen accumulating that many points each season is pretty irrelevant if they don’t win anything for it. Dons fans want trophies and he’s failed in that regard. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 45 minutes ago, paddymcp said: Let’s be honest Aberdeen accumulating that many points each season is pretty irrelevant if they don’t win anything for it. Dons fans want trophies and he’s failed in that regard. There's 3 major trophies up for grabs. One is just about unattainable, the other two can disappear in one 90 minute contest where you're not at your best. Points accumulated in the league are about as relevant a measure of a clubs performance in a season as you can find. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellAnderson Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Let’s be honest Aberdeen accumulating that many points each season is pretty irrelevant if they don’t win anything for it. Dons fans want trophies and he’s failed in that regard. Tell us more about what Dons fans want. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 hours ago, paddymcp said: Let’s be honest Aberdeen accumulating that many points each season is pretty irrelevant if they don’t win anything for it. Dons fans want trophies and he’s failed in that regard. Undoubtedly, Derek is a major failure. I wish he’d been around to fail as badly as this in the twenty years before he arrived. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, kingjoey said: Undoubtedly, Derek is a major failure. I wish he’d been around to fail as badly as this in the twenty years before he arrived. Derek just doent have the same "football knowledge" as Celtic Football Club. Thats what football boils down to after all, according to fans of Celtic Football Club. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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