Zapp Brannigan Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 Not surprised at this at all. I think Ferguson has reached that "next level" moment. Was beginning to worry that McInnes was going to ruin him the way he was being deployed. Disappointing that it looks like we won't get to see how he might flourish under Glass because the signs are there he could be exceptional in the way Glass wants to play. Just needs to stop missing the easy chances 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 10 hours ago, HalfCutNinja said: Its delusional. Turnbull went for circa 3, McGinn went for circa 3, McKenna went for circa 3. Nisbett is going to go for circa 3. Ferguson is not better than any of these players. That's about the right figure for him, 2.5-3.5. Aberdeen have acted like idiots going public with this and calling it "insulting". They are deluded, and Watford might just take their money elsewhere now. Its not like another Lewis Ferguson would be hard to find. 10 hours ago, Merkland Red said: Was wondering when we'd get the opinion of the resident idiot. Didn't take us too long. He’s spot on in this instance though. Calling the bid of £2m ‘derisory’ ffs... seriously, what do you think he’s worth? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, PauloPerth said: He’s spot on in this instance though. Calling the bid of £2m ‘derisory’ ffs... seriously, what do you think he’s worth? Was it not a bid of £1.2m? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: He’s spot on in this instance though. Calling the bid of £2m ‘derisory’ ffs... seriously, what do you think he’s worth? It was allegedly £1.2m. What other language should the club use when we're trying to maximise the value. "It was almost there, not quite. Try again." The players he mentioned also never went to the EPL. That should add a fair whack to the value for a start. Edited May 20, 2021 by Merkland Red 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: Serious question: what's the point of a transfer request – Isn't that a relic of pre-Bosman days? And why are they always written – as if that adds some solemnity to it? I do like the tradition that they are always slapped in, though. I believe some contracts you forgo any ironically named ‘loyalty’ bonuses when you get sold. Which is why at the higher end you get footballers acting like cocks to force through a move without sticking in a request so they don't lose out on money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Was it not a bid of £1.2m? I was just going by the figure quoted on the BBC https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57178643 Aberdeen say they have rejected a transfer request from Scotland under-21 midfielder Lewis Ferguson after turning down an "insulting offer" from a Premier League club. It has been reported the Scottish Premiership club dismissed a £2m bid from newly-promoted Watford. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: It was allegedly £1.2m. What other language should the club use when we're trying to maximise the value. "It was almost there, not quite. Try again." The players he mentioned also never went to the EPL that should add a fair whack to the value for a start. Don’t you feel there’s a bit of hypocrisy there considering the way Aberdeen tried to low ball Accies for him in the first place? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Don’t you feel there’s a bit of hypocrisy there considering the way Aberdeen tried to low ball Accies for him in the first place? Is that a serious question? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 9 hours ago, tarapoa said: The statement and the hyperbole do seem a tad unnecessary..............but that's the culture we're in now at AFC. More open communication - sometimes it works, sometimes it's questionable. Ferguson's YouTube montage presumably won't include the embarrassing sitters he missed against Celtic a few weeks back, and Sevco at the weekend. I think we'd all concluded he was off, so was a written transfer request really required? Comes across as disrespectful to the club, when things surely could have been worked out behind the scenes - but given McKenna and Nisbet did similar recently, this seems to be agent tactics book 1 page 1 right now. Had to do a double-take that Bill McMurdo was his agent - I thought he'd retired 20 years ago, and only emerged for $hite after-dinner speeches about the Mo Johnston thing..... I didn't realise he was still alive, tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, CCB19035 said: He was out of contract. The development fee was what was disputed. Apples and Oranges Were Hamilton not also initially claiming something ridiculous as well? Pretty sure the tribunal sided more with Aberdeens valuation than Hamiltons. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukDukGoose Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, gannonball said: Were Hamilton not also initially claiming something ridiculous as well? Pretty sure the tribunal sided more with Aberdeens valuation than Hamiltons. 1 minute ago, CCB19035 said: They wanted 6 figures or something. I can't remember the exact amount but it was daft, don't blame them though, worth a punt. They were after seven figures. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/aberdeen-reveal-delight-lewis-ferguson-13109206 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Merkland Red said: They were after seven figures. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/aberdeen-reveal-delight-lewis-ferguson-13109206 They get done out a million quid so they give it a try themselves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northboy Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 52 minutes ago, Mr Heliums said: Serious question: what's the point of a transfer request – Isn't that a relic of pre-Bosman days? And why are they always written – as if that adds some solemnity to it? I do like the tradition that they are always slapped in, though. I suspect it might be contractual protocol. Given the nature of football there is probably some sort of get out clause for both parties in the contract. If the player wants to leave it seems reasonable that he should formally notify the club. Same if the club wants to sell the player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northboy Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, CCB19035 said: The bid has been reported to be 1.2 million. That's what the P&J were saying this morning but you can never know what the true figure is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrendanGalloway Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 It’s time Scottish football grew some balls and got proper value of players. Sick of the low ball offers. Bare minimum has to be 3m and even then would need some good clauses for that to be accepted. As previous poster said start at 5m and if we get to 3.5-4m with a few clauses probably deal at that. Aberdeen in relatively strong financial position in comparison to most so they should dig there heels in. Think it was 200k projected loss quoted by Cormack for last season was it? Disappointed in Ferguson, transfer window hasn’t even opened yet and he’s already spat the dummy after first bid. He deserves his move but equally Aberdeen deserve a fair price. Really believe he could thrive in the right setup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfCutNinja Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 50 minutes ago, Merkland Red said: It was allegedly £1.2m. What other language should the club use when we're trying to maximise the value. "It was almost there, not quite. Try again." The players he mentioned also never went to the EPL. That should add a fair whack to the value for a start. They were also full internationals in three cases. Is Ferguson? That's what he's worth. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfCutNinja Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 37 minutes ago, CCB19035 said: The bid has been reported to be 1.2 million. Is that not insulting? Nobody is saying we will definitely get him away for £5,000,000 but I'd start there and work down. 3-4,000,000 is reasonable for Ferguson, over 200 appearances at 21, and he has all the attributes to be a top player. He is only 21 however, and I suspect a gentleman's agreement shall be reached whereby he either stays on another year with the guarantee of being off next Summer, or he leaves this window if his valuation is met. Reported by whom? It's been reported to be two. Which is perfectly reasonable. Aberdeen are just deluded. Which is kind of fitting cause their fans are too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfCutNinja Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 40 minutes ago, CCB19035 said: The bid has been reported to be 1.2 million. Is that not insulting? Nobody is saying we will definitely get him away for £5,000,000 but I'd start there and work down. 3-4,000,000 is reasonable for Ferguson, over 200 appearances at 21, and he has all the attributes to be a top player. He is only 21 however, and I suspect a gentleman's agreement shall be reached whereby he either stays on another year with the guarantee of being off next Summer, or he leaves this window if his valuation is met. And he has 124 appearances btw, hardly "over 200". And is nearly 22. Five million is delusional. You barely got that for McKenna and Cosgrove combined. Watford would rightly laugh you out of the room if you start talking pish like that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodhull Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) Pep with a Hail Mary triple trolling post spree in the hope that someone will take his shite seriously! Edited May 20, 2021 by Rodhull 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfCutNinja Posted May 20, 2021 Share Posted May 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, BrendanGalloway said: It’s time Scottish football grew some balls and got proper value of players. Sick of the low ball offers. Bare minimum has to be 3m and even then would need some good clauses for that to be accepted. As previous poster said start at 5m and if we get to 3.5-4m with a few clauses probably deal at that. Aberdeen in relatively strong financial position in comparison to most so they should dig there heels in. Think it was 200k projected loss quoted by Cormack for last season was it? Disappointed in Ferguson, transfer window hasn’t even opened yet and he’s already spat the dummy after first bid. He deserves his move but equally Aberdeen deserve a fair price. Really believe he could thrive in the right setup. Aberdeen are in a shit financial position and desperate for money. They just had to stop building their new stadium cause they don't have the money to do it. They now have to raise fifty million for it. On what planet is that "a strong financial position"? And why on earth would any club pay more for Ferguson than McGinn, Turnbull and McKenna went for? See what I mean about delusional. Ridiculous. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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