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4 hours ago, sheeptastic said:

Big Brian Irvine on the defensive situation - https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/brian-irvine-aberdeen-triangle-assertion-21848669

Probably should have prioritised that position in the summer. 

We brought in Gallagher and Bates, so I suppose we did. Gallagher isn't doing what we brought him in to do, and it's been bad luck with big Andy. 

We simply can't continue with a back that is 23, 22, 21 and 18 years old though. It's killing us. 

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Big Brian Irvine on the defensive situation - https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/brian-irvine-aberdeen-triangle-assertion-21848669
Probably should have prioritised that position in the summer. 

Spot on Brian - the vast majority of good teams are built on a solid base and an element of stability.

The edict to improve the playing style as a first priority has predictably led to us being a soft-touch for any reasonably well set up opponent.

Hopefully some pragmatism is introduced in order to get some points on the board - a bit of confidence and consistency in the side and the entertainment will come as a by-product.

Agree that Considine has been a huge miss…….especially since we’re at Dens next.
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2 hours ago, Bob Mahelp said:

We brought in Gallagher and Bates, so I suppose we did. Gallagher isn't doing what we brought him in to do, and it's been bad luck with big Andy. 

We simply can't continue with a back that is 23, 22, 21 and 18 years old though. It's killing us. 

I think Bates is hopeless, but he is 25 so hardly an untested youngster now. We have definitely been unfortunate with Considine's injury and he has been a big miss, but I think Gallagher has to come in against Dundee and hopefully begin to play himself into some sort of form, either as a replacement for Bates or in the middle of a three. 

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9 hours ago, DrewDon said:

I think Bates is hopeless, but he is 25 so hardly an untested youngster now. 

I missed the St Johnstone game, but heard his performance was 'encouraging' there.

At St Mirren, he was headsgone along with several others after the red card.

Against Celtic, after the early poor judgement with the Kyogo goal, he actually settled into a decent enough game.

Given he was good enough to be signed by Hamburg - is it not worth persisting with him and giving him some time to settle in ahead of writing him off as 'hopeless' already?

 

 

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33 minutes ago, tarapoa said:

I missed the St Johnstone game, but heard his performance was 'encouraging' there.

At St Mirren, he was headsgone along with several others after the red card.

Against Celtic, after the early poor judgement with the Kyogo goal, he actually settled into a decent enough game.

Given he was good enough to be signed by Hamburg - is it not worth persisting with him and giving him some time to settle in ahead of writing him off as 'hopeless' already?

 

 

I mean, I'm definitely being influenced by the fact that I didn't rate him before we signed him anyway, so what I've seen from him since he joined has basically just confirmed my worst fears about him. Great if he can turn it around, but I'm not just basing my judgement only on his performances since joining us. 

Admittedly, he's probably not being helped by being partnered with McCrorie (likewise, McCrorie, who isn't perfect but I prefer to Bates, isn't helped by being partnered with him). Gallagher has to be in there alongside one of them and hopefully start to play himself into form - he's the most similar centre-back to Considine that we have, and both McCrorie and Bates seem to be the types who would benefit from a more old-fashioned stopper beside them. 

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I've been thinking about this season. I'm not one of those pant pishers (I think), but I'm a little bit concerned. I'm not overly concerned by the squad in fact, I think individually we have the talent to be pushing at the top of the league. The concern I have is a change in the way the management team seem to be handling games.

At the start of the season we would have a pish first half, then get 3 (effective) changes at half time, and go on to win the match.

In recent matches it looks like that decisiveness has gone. It's almost like the head coach and his assistant coaches have settled on their preferred 11, and have slumped into a kind of "well there's not much more we can do" attitude. Now, I feel there is a lot more to come from this group of players, but they clearly need to find a spark of inspiration from somewhere. That needs to come from the management team.

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Bates career is a bit of a sham tbh.  Looked decent with us, but not much more than that.  Got signed by Rangers on the back of a good game against an ageing Kenny Miller.

I don't think he's done anything to suggest that he's good enough for Aberdeen.  He's built an entire career on the back of Rangers taking a punt on him.

Cheers for Ethan Ross btw. 

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My loon trains at Cormack Park on Wednesday evenings. Brown and Glass were both heading in around the same time. The chat from other parents was that they were in for a meal and a chat with Cormack so it's fairly obvious the board aren't happy with the situation we're in. It will be interesting to see if there's any changes to how we set up this weekend.

Was also told that Gallagher, his wife and kids are up here in a flat several days a week from now on. Will be interesting to see if that improves his game any.

 

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First post. I live in hope that Hedges' return this weekend will give us that spark. We need something. We've scored one goal in open play in the last five games so it's no surprise we find ourselves on 8 points (easy to lose sight of that with the focus constantly on the defence). We've conceded 11 goals in the league in 8 games (too many, one a penalty). Without 2-3 errors from Joe, our defensive record would actually be on a par with Hibs. We need to be better up front. Our points total is not just down to the defence.  

In the last 4 games we've restricted the opposition to only 9 attempts on target. It's a bizarre stat that this has resulted in 8 goals, two from two of the best crosses I've seen this season.  If we're persisting with a back 4, we need to land on a pairing in the middle and give them a run of games. Maybe it is time for Gallagher. Hopefully the errors we've seen will start to dry up. Midfielders / wide players must also switch on and take responsibility, we're also conceded goals due to a lack of tracking back.  Andy is a loss, not just his presence at the back, but his link up play down the left. It's obvious we miss a left sided CB.

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1 hour ago, Sheepster said:

First post. I live in hope that Hedges' return this weekend will give us that spark. We need something. We've scored one goal in open play in the last five games so it's no surprise we find ourselves on 8 points (easy to lose sight of that with the focus constantly on the defence). We've conceded 11 goals in the league in 8 games (too many, one a penalty). Without 2-3 errors from Joe, our defensive record would actually be on a par with Hibs. We need to be better up front. Our points total is not just down to the defence.  

In the last 4 games we've restricted the opposition to only 9 attempts on target. It's a bizarre stat that this has resulted in 8 goals, two from two of the best crosses I've seen this season.  If we're persisting with a back 4, we need to land on a pairing in the middle and give them a run of games. Maybe it is time for Gallagher. Hopefully the errors we've seen will start to dry up. Midfielders / wide players must also switch on and take responsibility, we're also conceded goals due to a lack of tracking back.  Andy is a loss, not just his presence at the back, but his link up play down the left. It's obvious we miss a left sided CB.

Taking that analysis into account, it's slightly worrying to see Glass himself implying in an interview in The Times today that our problems are all defensive.  He makes the same point you make about the amount of goals we've conceded being disproportionate to the number of opportunities we've conceded.  Fair point, and it does suggest some bad luck.

But he also claims:

"We look like we carry a threat in every game which is something we had to address. We feel like we have done that." And

"We look like a team that can score goals".

One goal from open play in 5 matches makes these claims look like pure denial.  His incoherent language (sample:  "it has been pretty obvious for the bulk of the season we might lose a goal through an individual bit from the other team other than ourselves being cut open") suggests that he's not in a great place mentally.

If we don't get a performance and result against Dundee he may be doing himself a favour by cutting short the agony.

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16 hours ago, CALDERON said:

Bates career is a bit of a sham tbh.  Looked decent with us, but not much more than that.  Got signed by Rangers on the back of a good game against an ageing Kenny Miller.

I don't think he's done anything to suggest that he's good enough for Aberdeen.  He's built an entire career on the back of Rangers taking a punt on him.

Cheers for Ethan Ross btw. 

Love looking for shite players on my charts. But aye...

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