The Famous Aberdeen - Season 2022/23

[Game of throw-ins]

20 hours ago, kilMARKnock said:

So Dean Campbell looks a goer for DM, thoughts gents?

My worry if I were a Killie fan would be that his very recent form has been dreadful.  He's had two or three games in a row where he can't seem to do anything right and to me looks like a player whose confidence is completely shot.  If Deek can fix that and get him back to playing at his best, he'll be an asset.

Edited February 3, 2022 by Game of throw-ins

[72redz]

I’m in no way suggesting that Glass was an ideal appointment, but, I genuinely don’t think he’s as clueless as folk mhak oot. I can see how he wants his team tae play but the times it’s clicked have been few and far between. I think ahbody can agree that the next 3 games are likely tae decide his fate. But I canna help thinking he has been badly let doon by Cormack. The model was tae be Glass as first team coach under a DoF with a Head of Recruitment- none of which were in place when Glass was appointed resulting in flawed summer recruitment. Appointing the inexperienced Gunn as DoF, Mowbury is the invisible man, leading tae a farce o a January windae - Glass has been hung oot. He’s also been let doon by nae appointing an experienced no. 2. I got pelters on here for questioning the value of Russell - apart fae a few interesting set pieces, the novelty value of which has lang passed, I dinna see fit this boy brings tae the table. Scoring goals is oor main problem, he is apparently an ‘elite’ striking coach - it’s nae working. And finally, Glass has been let doon time efter time by players poor judgement and decision making - baith defensively and going forward.  This may sound like a defence o Glass, it’s nae, if we continue tae struggle in the next twa games and get bulleted fae the cup then he should probably go. But the lack o key people in the background structure and the negligence o nae supporting Glass in the January windae has deen the manager nae favours.

[Frank Grimes]

Pretty spot on tbf 

I think most of us on here are thinking the same 

No win tomorrow, a hiding midweek and a cup exit next Saturday would more than likely spell the end 

[Dons_1988]

24 minutes ago, 72redz said:

I’m in no way suggesting that Glass was an ideal appointment, but, I genuinely don’t think he’s as clueless as folk mhak oot. I can see how he wants his team tae play but the times it’s clicked have been few and far between. I think ahbody can agree that the next 3 games are likely tae decide his fate. But I canna help thinking he has been badly let doon by Cormack. The model was tae be Glass as first team coach under a DoF with a Head of Recruitment- none of which were in place when Glass was appointed resulting in flawed summer recruitment. Appointing the inexperienced Gunn as DoF, Mowbury is the invisible man, leading tae a farce o a January windae - Glass has been hung oot. He’s also been let doon by nae appointing an experienced no. 2. I got pelters on here for questioning the value of Russell - apart fae a few interesting set pieces, the novelty value of which has lang passed, I dinna see fit this boy brings tae the table. Scoring goals is oor main problem, he is apparently an ‘elite’ striking coach - it’s nae working. And finally, Glass has been let doon time efter time by players poor judgement and decision making - baith defensively and going forward.  This may sound like a defence o Glass, it’s nae, if we continue tae struggle in the next twa games and get bulleted fae the cup then he should probably go. But the lack o key people in the background structure and the negligence o nae supporting Glass in the January windae has deen the manager nae favours.

I don’t think anyone particularly defended Russell, I think it was just odd that he was singled out in an overall team that was failing. None of the coaching staff, manager, DoF, Mowbray or cormack from a football perspective, have really proven their worth yet. 

[lubo_blaha]

I’m in no way suggesting that Glass was an ideal appointment, but, I genuinely don’t think he’s as clueless as folk mhak oot. I can see how he wants his team tae play but the times it’s clicked have been few and far between. I think ahbody can agree that the next 3 games are likely tae decide his fate. But I canna help thinking he has been badly let doon by Cormack. The model was tae be Glass as first team coach under a DoF with a Head of Recruitment- none of which were in place when Glass was appointed resulting in flawed summer recruitment. Appointing the inexperienced Gunn as DoF, Mowbury is the invisible man, leading tae a farce o a January windae - Glass has been hung oot. He’s also been let doon by nae appointing an experienced no. 2. I got pelters on here for questioning the value of Russell - apart fae a few interesting set pieces, the novelty value of which has lang passed, I dinna see fit this boy brings tae the table. Scoring goals is oor main problem, he is apparently an ‘elite’ striking coach - it’s nae working. And finally, Glass has been let doon time efter time by players poor judgement and decision making - baith defensively and going forward.  This may sound like a defence o Glass, it’s nae, if we continue tae struggle in the next twa games and get bulleted fae the cup then he should probably go. But the lack o key people in the background structure and the negligence o nae supporting Glass in the January windae has deen the manager nae favours.

What makes you single out Russell and not Brown or Apaloo? I don’t really see how any fan would be able to determine whether one of our “Assistant First Team Coaches” is performing any better or worse than the others.

I’d say it’s hard to judge Russell as a striker coach in particular, given that we only have one striker on the books to work with and barely any attacking players who can supply him.

[72redz]

Broon is nae wye acting as the Manger’s no. 2, his role is clearly a player and captain and certainly fan it comes tae match days.  Fair point aboot Apaloo, but, disnae get awah fae the fact Glass should have the support o at least one experienced member o his backroom staff whether that be as a no. 2 or DoF. Fill yir boots and tell me fit value you see coming fae Russell? 

Edited February 4, 2022 by 72redz

[TommyDickFingers]

2 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said:

What makes you single out Russell and not Brown or Apaloo? I don’t really see how any fan would be able to determine whether one of our “Assistant First Team Coaches” is performing any better or worse than the others.

I’d say it’s hard to judge Russell as a striker coach in particular, given that we only have one striker on the books to work with and barely any attacking players who can supply him.

 

 Similar to what I was getting at in another thread (that I forgot to reply to)regarding Gunn, Cormack Et al.

Take Mowbray for example:

Leeds - Head of Performance Analysis - (Randomguy with a flat cap and whippets)

Boro' - Head of Technical Recruitment

Burnley - Player Recruitment

He's ok experience wise because he has "worked in recruitment" but apparently Gunn & Cormack (the guys who interviewed and employed the ok recruitment guy btw) are not fit for purpose was the vibe I got.

The point I'm already regretting alluding to is I have no problem in having differing opinions on people, their abilities or lack thereof. It's the folk, of which there are many that proclaim that x,y or z isn't up to a job because "stuff" that boils my piss.

Anyways..

SaCk The  BOarD

[Dons_1988]

4 minutes ago, TommyDickFingers said:

 Similar to what I was getting at in another thread (that I forgot to reply to)regarding Gunn, Cormack Et al.

Take Mowbray for example:

Leeds - Head of Performance Analysis - (Randomguy with a flat cap and whippets)

Boro' - Head of Technical Recruitment

Burnley - Player Recruitment

He's ok experience wise because he has "worked in recruitment" but apparently Gunn & Cormack (the guys who interviewed and employed the ok recruitment guy btw) are not fit for purpose was the vibe I got.

The point I'm already regretting alluding to is I have no problem in having differing opinions on people, their abilities or lack thereof. It's the folk, of which there are many that proclaim that x,y or z isn't up to a job because "stuff" that boils my piss.

Anyways..

SaCk The  BOarD

I don’t think anyone individually has proven themselves not fit for purpose. 

If I remember correctly the point made in the other thread was that collectively there’s a lack of experience throughout the leadership of the football operations. Everyone in there is new to the role, with the exception of Mowbray. 

nothing wrong with bringing through new guys if they’re good enough but when everyone in the room is inexperienced it can cause issues. 

[lubo_blaha]

Broon is nae wye acting as the Manger’s no. 2, his role is clearly a player and captain and certainly fan it comes tae match days.  Fair point aboot Apaloo, but, disnae get awah fae the fact Glass should have the support o at least one experienced member o his backroom staff whether that be as a no. 2 or DoF. Fill yir boots and tell me fit value you see coming fae Russell? 

How are we as fans able to work out what value one coach is bringing compared to another? We don’t know what they work on at Cormack Park. With Russell being brought in as a set piece/striker specialist, you could say we’ve scored a few from corners but it’s hard to judge him given that we only have one striker, who has done pretty well but probably isn’t going to change his game dramatically as he’s already 30 years old.

I included Brown as he has the same job title as the other two but who knows how much time he’s actually coaching the team instead of training himself. Apaloo seemingly has a background in analysis and player development which would make his impact quite difficult to judge as well.

It’s clear the team’s output is less than the sum of their parts but I don’t think there’s any way to establish with substance if one coach is performing better than any other. Glass may need more experience but at the end of the day, all of the first team staff there were his choices (as far as I’m aware).

[betting competition]

20 hours ago, Game of throw-ins said:

My worry if I were a Killie fan would be that his very recent form has been dreadful.  He's had two or three games in a row where he can't seem to do anything right and to me looks like a player whose confidence is completely shot.  If Deek can fix that and get him back to playing at his best, he'll be an asset.

No point judging his recent performances as playing out of position, did quite well considering not a defender. 

Edited February 4, 2022 by betting competition

[coprolite]

44 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said:

How are we as fans able to work out what value one coach is bringing compared to another? We don’t know what they work on at Cormack Park. With Russell being brought in as a set piece/striker specialist, you could say we’ve scored a few from corners but it’s hard to judge him given that we only have one striker, who has done pretty well but probably isn’t going to change his game dramatically as he’s already 30 years old.

I included Brown as he has the same job title as the other two but who knows how much time he’s actually coaching the team instead of training himself. Apaloo seemingly has a background in analysis and player development which would make his impact quite difficult to judge as well.

It’s clear the team’s output is less than the sum of their parts but I don’t think there’s any way to establish with substance if one coach is performing better than any other. Glass may need more experience but at the end of the day, all of the first team staff there were his choices (as far as I’m aware).

Officially though, Russell is the AM and Brown and Apalloo are coaches. 

Annual report:

"Stephen Glass was appointed as the Club’s new manager on 29th March 2021, and subsequently introducedAllan Russell as his assistant, along with Scott Brown as player/coach and Henry Apaloo as a coach. The Club then took the opportunity to restructure the Football Operation by promoting Steven Gunn to the role of Director of Football from his 
previous position as Director of 
Football Operations. In his new 
position, Steven is responsible for 
all of the Club’s football business 
including the youth academy, 
professional men’s teams, and our women’s team."

 

[betting competition]

I wonder if we didn't sign too many players because we are cutting the budget because with the losses last season was far too high. I have a major concern about having to sell a player each year to balance the books. 

Cormark talks about being open with the fans but we have heard nothing from him about this transfer window with now 4 days have past. 

 

[lubo_blaha]

Officially though, Russell is the AM and Brown and Apalloo are coaches. 
Annual report:
"Stephen Glass was appointed as the Club’s new manager on 29th March 2021, and subsequently introducedAllan Russell as his assistant, along with Scott Brown as player/coach and Henry Apaloo as a coach. The Club then took the opportunity to restructure the Football Operation by promoting Steven Gunn to the role of Director of Football from his 
previous position as Director of 
Football Operations. In his new 
position, Steven is responsible for 
all of the Club’s football business 
including the youth academy, 
professional men’s teams, and our women’s team."
 

I was going off what’s noted here:

https://www.afc.co.uk/teams/management/

[coprolite]

2 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said:

I was going off what’s noted here:

https://www.afc.co.uk/teams/management/

Maybe Russell got demoted? 

f**k knows what's going on. 

[lubo_blaha]

I wonder if we didn't sign too many players because we are cutting the budget because with the losses last season was far too high. I have a major concern about having to sell a player each year to balance the books. 
Cormark talks about being open with the fans but we have heard nothing from him about this transfer window with now 4 days have past. 
 

I would be surprised if our playing budget hasn’t increased from last year. Ramirez, Brown, Watkins, JET, Gallagher, Bates and Besuijen will all be on a good wage and I’d imagine we’d have chipped in for Longstaff too. It’s hard to argue that Glass hasn’t been backed financially.

[betting competition]

29 minutes ago, lubo_blaha said:

I would be surprised if our playing budget hasn’t increased from last year. Ramirez, Brown, Watkins, JET, Gallagher, Bates and Besuijen will all be on a good wage and I’d imagine we’d have chipped in for Longstaff too. It’s hard to argue that Glass hasn’t been backed financially.

I was meaning January transfer window, I do agree with you that Glass was well backed in the summer. That is why I don't know why people are going for Gunn etc when the previous transfer window we signed a lot of players. 

Edited February 4, 2022 by betting competition

[the tungston weasel]

Mostly I get the impression that Cormack has played football manager and sees himself as DoF.

[DunbartonshireRed]

We should be looking to bring in Frank Castaneda to the club. Free agent striker, colombian so should be able to settle with Besuijen and Ramirez already at the club, CL experience. Good scoring record in Slovakia and Moldova. If we had our wits about us we'd be all over it.

[DunbartonshireRed]

13 minutes ago, IDoNotKnowThisOne said:

I dare say we will be. 
 

Sherriff can pay stupid money. His scoring record is impressive, and he'll have more than us offering. 

He's been without a club for 2 months now so i can't imagine there's a massive queue of clubs. Maybe he fancies going back to Colombia but i'd like to think we'd at least be having a conversation about him. After all it seems we are going down to South American route a lot more now. And he's 27 aswell. Coming in to his peak. 

[Don exotic]

16 hours ago, IDoNotKnowThisOne said:

Because it's clear we failed to convince a fair few players to sign this January, when we really needed strengthening. 

That's the issue. We have a laudable strategy of developing good young players. Hopefully the general quality will rise in time. At the moment with an inexperienced team we struggle to convince established players to come. We therefore will rely more on our development of players.