Killiesquirrel Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 You slate him for predicting Brazil would beat Germany, but a lot of people did. Okay a lot of money was on Germany, but Brazil were a popular pick. Everyone in the studio last night apart from Rio were predicting Brazil. They should all be getting hounded too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 And Debuchy, Koscielny and Evra aren't good enough for England? The guy is a clown! Ashley Cole > Baines > Evra The fact Cole wasn't even in the squad is laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Nooka Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Ashley Cole > Baines > Evra The fact Cole wasn't even in the squad is laughable. Cole should definitely have been in the squad ahead of Baines who is vastly overrated but I think an aging Evra is a better player than either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tourette Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I think it's Hansen's condescending, arrogant manner that makes people dislike him so much. It certainly is for me. His understanding of the finer points of the game is actually not that bad, especially compared to a clown like Pearce. He is also reasonably eloquent compared to someone like Ferdinand, who comes across like a mentally retarded version of Ali G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Think Hansen is the most complete pundit out there out of the people covering the WC. He talks about defending in depth which is obviously his strong point, and is the most natural at explaining his thought process. Whilst I prefer Strachan and O'Neill because they've been very, very good, you can see that it doesn't come naturally to them as much as it does to Hansen. Shearer is definitely improving though. Although his staunch position of Germany just being 'wonderful' and Brazil couldn't do anything to counteract it was just nonsense as Hansen rightly pointed out. My two favourite clips of punditry over this world cup are as follows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB8SQfBr1CA Neither piece is discussing the game, Strachan points out something that's blatantly obvious that no-one else has really ever pointed out and O'Neill just destroys everyone on the panel including Chiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 He's no where near the worst and I don't mind hearing about the defending side of the game. The biggest surprise for me has been Danny Murphy, I've actually been quite impressed by his knowledge and the way he gets his point across. Not saying he's the best but I wasn't expecting him to be as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Alan Hansen has been put to grass about ten years too late. He just seems so impressed with himself all the time, probably stemming from the fact that he's been an immovable fixture in the MotD panel for about twenty years. The worst, however, is undoubtedly Mark Lawrenson. The guy adds absolutely nothing whatsoever. Occasionally, Hansen will make a comment outwith his usual "two banks of four" chat and it can be almost insightful - whereas his erstwhile partner in crime seems to specialize in atrocious and condescending one-liners. "Lawro" always seems to me like a man who's given up on life. He has a melancholy in his eyes and body language that suggests he is desperately unhappy with his lot, spending his evenings alone in a Holiday Inn drinking whiskey, just waiting for his elderly mother to pass away so he can go the whole hog and end it all. That is one of the most fantastic posts i have ever seen, take a bow soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grass Is Greener. Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 'Lawro' also has a horrible collection of shirts, good enough reason to hate him IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I don't know what some people want from pundits, if you want the most in depth analysis possible then you will probably be in the minority especially at the world cup where a good chunk of the audience don't know that much about football and are just watching for the occasion. Most people who watch the games week in week out aren't going to be that arsed about the punditry just so long as they discuss the important parts of the games that are obvious to everyone, if you are wanting the best and most detailed analysis you will probably have to look else where but i think there is usually a pretty good mix of wise pundits and entertaining tv personalities for all the channels. I think Hansen is still a relevant pundit to have about as he's dour, Scottish and quite funny. Lawrenson is completely irrelevant, not many people know much about him as a footballer but is plain to see he is a very negative man who brings nothing of any use to anyone and should be off the screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyderspaceman Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Aww! Now look what you've done. Alan Hansen: TV pundit to bow out after World Cup final Legendary football pundit Alan Hansen makes his final appearance for the BBC this Sunday during the World Cup final in Rio. The 59-year-old, who moved into punditry a year after retiring from the game in 1991, steps aside after 22 years on screen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Alan Hansen is so money. He will be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Like O'Neill because he seems so polite when he takes people apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Bezzer! Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 The biggest surprise for me has been Danny Murphy, I've actually been quite impressed by his knowledge and the way he gets his point across. Not saying he's the best but I wasn't expecting him to be as good. Danny Murphy calls ever decision wrong in play and then corrects himself after seeing the replay. "That was a really great tackle and....oh....maybe not....bit naughty there from Gonzalez, that's a bit of a shocker actually" or "He's hit that straight in the top corner, brilliant technique, those sort of goals don't happen by accident and....actually looking at the replay that's a complete mishit.". Quite often he has a little chuckle to himself as well as if...."oh what am I like, got another one wrong". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throbber Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 That is hilarious from Strachan MON always seems like a decent guy but i don't know why he had the dig at Vieira and Cannavaro they always seem like decent guys from what i have seen of them!! I think Danny Murphy has done a good job. Robbie Savage is a complete imbecile but entertaining to some extent. Shearer is alright as well, just a pretty dull and serious man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmothecat Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Danny Murphy calls ever decision wrong in play and then corrects himself after seeing the replay. "That was a really great tackle and....oh....maybe not....bit naughty there from Gonzalez, that's a bit of a shocker actually" or "He's hit that straight in the top corner, brilliant technique, those sort of goals don't happen by accident and....actually looking at the replay that's a complete mishit.". Quite often he has a little chuckle to himself as well as if...."oh what am I like, got another one wrong". I don't want to defend Danny Murphy too much, but at least doing that is better than getting it wrong, but sticking to your guns no matter how many replays and different angles prove you were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 MON always seems like a decent guy but i don't know why he had the dig at Vieira and Cannavaro they always seem like decent guys from what i have seen of them!! I'm sure Vieira and Cannavora had a sort of veiled dig at not knowing he ever actually played, Chiles had also just taken the piss out of him And I don't mind Murphy, at least he admits to mistakes. I think its Townsend who simply refuses to back down even when replays show he was blatantly wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Nooka Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I don't want to defend Danny Murphy too much, but at least doing that is better than getting it wrong, but sticking to your guns no matter how many replays and different angles prove you were wrong. Craig Burley is murder for that, feel like kicking his false teeth in at times! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Naitch Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 That documentary that was on the other night about Hansen was pretty good, as it happens. Think it's still on the iplayer for anyone remotely interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need2Speak2Caesar Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Only on a Scottish board , oooooooh the Scottish cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieStevenson Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 Why does this thread have 2 pages? Alan Hansen isn't a commentator so this should have been closed immediately. If you're going to come on and have a go at Hansen at least know what his job is. FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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