Tommy Sheridan - A Personal View

[Wallace Mercer]

Ram it right up yer arse fannybaws. Just you carry on like a good little sheep and believe what they tell you too.

Baaaaaaaa

Unfortunately, when just over half the country prove to be craven shitebags, it falls to the strong minority to push the region formerly known as Scotland in the right direction.

Still not over the vote yet lads???

This is a man who continues to think that the Scottish people share his ideals, however he gained 800 votes in the last Scottish election while the conservatives gained over 12% of the electorate. If this is the best that the Yes can put forward to argue their case then my god they are really scrapping the barrel. Convicted Lier should fit in well with the Yes campaign then.

[chomp my root]

I always felt the same about George Galloway with regards to his orator skills..........Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of his or Sheridan's Politics but the lack of these polarising Politicians, from both ends of the political spectrum, leads to our Parliament being poorer for it.

While both of them can certainly talk and even 'rabble rouse' I've never put them in the great orator category personally, they both seem to be trying too hard, especially Galloway. Its not even that I disagree with them both, I definitely think they're both in it for the ego and that maybe puts me off their 'style' of speech making.

[sjc]

While both of them can certainly talk and even 'rabble rouse' I've never put them in the great orator category personally, they both seem to be trying too hard, especially Galloway. Its not even that I disagree with them both, I definitely think they're both in it for the ego and that maybe puts me off their 'style' of speech making.

I'd say their "rabble rousing" is probably more to do with their Politics becoming obsolete over the last 20+years than their orating skills.

I agree that they certainly are egocentric but aren't the vast majority of them?

[chomp my root]

I'd say their "rabble rousing" is probably more to do with their Politics becoming obsolete over the last 20+years than their orating skills.

I agree that they certainly are egocentric but aren't the vast majority of them?

You're probably right, I think even if you go into politics for the best of reasons it gets beaten out of you along the way and you end up a bit grubby. At the end of the day though they're people and we all like to be successful and for them it means making sure everyone knows how super they are so we vote for them.

Colour me cynical

[sjc]

You're probably right, I think even if you go into politics for the best of reasons it gets beaten out of you along the way and you end up a bit grubby. At the end of the day though they're people and we all like to be successful and for them it means making sure everyone knows how super they are so we vote for them.

Colour me cynical

I'm every bit a cynical mate!

[Crùbag]

More seething shite from the losers.

You lost, get over it as its frankly embarrassing that you cant accept the settled will of the Scottish people.

I can't believe Falkirk are playing Rangers again after folding so miserably a few weeks ago. Why don't you just forfeit the game?

[RedRob72]

If Tommy Sheridan is the answer, then we've fallen much further than I thought

[drs]

I can't believe Falkirk are playing Rangers again after folding so miserably a few weeks ago. Why don't you just forfeit the game?

Wow, is that the best you've got - shows why Yes lost if thats the most coherent argument their supporters can come up with.

....and why Falkirk and Sevco?

[Crùbag]

TS still commands large audiences wherever he speaks. I'm in two minds about him but he still gets the ears of many working class voters.

As to his court case, I reckon he was innocent.

Even if he was guilty, it's not a patch on Westminster's paedophile cover up or the Jimmy Saville saga. TS may be a rogue but Westminster, all the parties there, have been up to their necks in sleeze for decades. Just saying this as some seem to think these things are relevant to the indy question, certainly regarding Tommy anyway.

[Crùbag]

Wow, is that the best you've got - shows why Yes lost if thats the most coherent argument their supporters can come up with.

....and why Falkirk and Sevco?

Your team is a bunch of losers. How long have you been trying to get back to the SPL? Just give up.

Of course I don't believe that - we should support our teams win or lose but...

If you think it's good for politics - just give up on your cause - then why not for something as relitvely insignificant as football?

[Unleash The Nade]

A PERSONAL VIEW

By Tommy Sheridan

Over the last couple of days I have been inundated with thousands of facebook and twitter messages from disappointed YES supporters looking for a way forward. I am encouraged so many have decided to become politically involved and stay politically engaged. Leaving politics to the politicians is a recipe for poor governance.

Obviously I welcome those wishing to join my own party Solidarity. We have some of the best activists around and can be contacted at solidarityscotland.org New members are positive. However it is not enough.

What I am about to say is uncomfortable for a socialist like me. I oppose the SNP position on NATO membership, cutting corporation taxes for big businesses, retaining the Queen as a head of State, sharing sterling and other policies. BUT in order to maximise the pro-Independence vote in next May's General Election I believe all YES supporters should vote for the SNP and all other pro-Independence parties should not stand if the SNP candidate will commit to fight for a new Referendum as soon as possible AND against all Westminster austerity cuts to welfare and public services.

In other words I suggest we in the YES Movement promote continued unity by backing the most likely Independence supporting candidate at next May's election. In concrete terms that means advocating an SNP vote to try and unseat as many pro-NO party supporters as possible. Let's punish the reactionary and dishonest NO parties at the ballot box next May. Let's punish the shameful Labour Party in particular for siding with the Bankers, Bosses, Billionaires and Millionaires to try and crush our dream of a new and better Scotland with an avalanche of fear and lies.

The Holyrood elections in 2016 allow for more socialist, green and diverse candidates to be elected. The Westminster system doesn't.

If SNP candidates commit to fighting for a new Referendum and against austerity cuts let's unite behind them. If successful then we should insist all pro-Independence candidates in the 2016 Scottish election commit to a March 2020 Referendum.

This magnificent movement for independence and change can continue and grow. We have youth, energy and hope on our side. Hope can triumph over Fear in 2020.

I realise some socialists will find it difficult to support SNP candidates. That is understandable. BUT the stakes are huge now. We cannot let down the 1.6 million who defied the threats and intimidation from the rich to vote for a new and better country and world.

Unity is strength. Don't let our differences weaken our cause.‪

#‎HopeOverFear remains our clarion call.

I

Sounds like Tommy really doesn't know which way to swing these days!

[Pull My Strings]

TS still commands large audiences wherever he speaks. I'm in two minds about him but he still gets the ears of many working class voters.

As to his court case, I reckon he was innocent.

Even if he was guilty, it's not a patch on Westminster's paedophile cover up or the Jimmy Saville saga. TS may be a rogue but Westminster, all the parties there, have been up to their necks in sleeze for decades. Just saying this as some seem to think these things are relevant to the indy question, certainly regarding Tommy anyway.

This does not speak well for your discernment.

The problem with Tommy is that he got caught telling a whole stream of big fat lies. In court. Granted he's not a paedo but I think we need to demand more of our political figures than simply not being paedos. If that were the only criterion on which our politicians were judged then half of Westminster would be given the all clear.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

Tommy Sheridan and George Galloway have one thing in common, the are an irrelevance and a distraction from the whole debate.

Neither will make one iota of difference to the way this whole issue will play out.

Completely agree - they are a sideshow to the sideshow.

[Enigma]

Tommy Sheridan's problem was he got caught. I wonder what skeletons lie in the cupboards of some prominent No campaigners.

[Todders]

Has he revised his referendum prediction yet?

Might be an idea to come down a touch from the 60% Yes vote.

Why would anybody make a prediction after the fact? You really are thick, aren't you?

[Todders]

Please stop green dotting MarePeople's post. It's making me cringe

I pretty much ignored it until you poseted that. Green dot for MarePeople and red dot for Batteredanus

[Confidemus]

Tommy Sheridan's problem was he got caught. I wonder what skeletons lie in the cupboards of some prominent No campaigners.

Jackie Baillie has done bukkake porn.

Fact.

[Scary Bear]

A PERSONAL VIEW

By Tommy Sheridan

Over the last couple of days I have been inundated with thousands of facebook and twitter messages from disappointed YES supporters looking for a way forward. I am encouraged so many have decided to become politically involved and stay politically engaged. Leaving politics to the politicians is a recipe for poor governance.

Obviously I welcome those wishing to join my own party Solidarity. We have some of the best activists around and can be contacted at solidarityscotland.org New members are positive. However it is not enough.

What I am about to say is uncomfortable for a socialist like me. I oppose the SNP position on NATO membership, cutting corporation taxes for big businesses, retaining the Queen as a head of State, sharing sterling and other policies. BUT in order to maximise the pro-Independence vote in next May's General Election I believe all YES supporters should vote for the SNP and all other pro-Independence parties should not stand if the SNP candidate will commit to fight for a new Referendum as soon as possible AND against all Westminster austerity cuts to welfare and public services.

In other words I suggest we in the YES Movement promote continued unity by backing the most likely Independence supporting candidate at next May's election. In concrete terms that means advocating an SNP vote to try and unseat as many pro-NO party supporters as possible. Let's punish the reactionary and dishonest NO parties at the ballot box next May. Let's punish the shameful Labour Party in particular for siding with the Bankers, Bosses, Billionaires and Millionaires to try and crush our dream of a new and better Scotland with an avalanche of fear and lies.

The Holyrood elections in 2016 allow for more socialist, green and diverse candidates to be elected. The Westminster system doesn't.

If SNP candidates commit to fighting for a new Referendum and against austerity cuts let's unite behind them. If successful then we should insist all pro-Independence candidates in the 2016 Scottish election commit to a March 2020 Referendum.

This magnificent movement for independence and change can continue and grow. We have youth, energy and hope on our side. Hope can triumph over Fear in 2020.

I realise some socialists will find it difficult to support SNP candidates. That is understandable. BUT the stakes are huge now. We cannot let down the 1.6 million who defied the threats and intimidation from the rich to vote for a new and better country and world.

Unity is strength. Don't let our differences weaken our cause.‪

#‎HopeOverFear remains our clarion call.

I

[Scary Bear]

I like the message. Agree with most of it. Referendum in 2020 might be pushing it a bit, but this really needs to be a strong SNP vote to let Westminster know the issue hasn't gone away and Devo Max is required.

[sjc]

I wonder what the possibility of a fragmented Parliament akin to that of Italy happening in the UK?