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It's quite interesting the tribal shift in Scotland from Lab to SNP, but in practical terms it's meant little: same failed benefit culture/anti free market politics, planned high deficits (with likely inflation, taxation and interest rate rises to come) and ideological pc agenda we've had since 1997, just wrapped in a tartan shawl instead of a trade union banner. Indeed, Salmond is really an old style emancipated union baron/shop steward, promoted beyond his intelligence to keep him off the shop tools, and Mrs Sturgeon a watered down Barbara Castle minus the top lip. Cameron has done well considering the mess he inherited, saddled with the fool Clegg on his back. I write as a sane and concerned voice. Don't be patronised by these chancers, they'll lead us to ruin. We need to live within our means, that's what these champagne student Marxists don't get.

This level of trolling is simply awful.

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That is a good point. Polls are still very close but a slight Labour lead in the UK as a whole.

In Scotland I think there is so much traction in the SNP campaign that Labour will struggle to make up ground, they are even choosing which brother or sister to save. Miliband has a lower popularity rating than Brown or Cameron, so while I expect the debates, such as they are, to make some difference, Scotland is a very different campaign in many ways.

Northern Ireland has always had its own micro election, but for the first time in living memory I think the election in Scotland is completely different to that in England and Wales. Largely due to Labour (and I suppose the largely irrelevant Liberal Democrats) standing shoulder to shoulder with the Tories during the referendum campaign.

The study referred to in the link I posted earlier shows the stance of likely SNP voters is hardening and that there's greater likelihood of more Former Labour voters coming over to the SNP during the next six weeks than SNP to Labour. The national polls are encouraging if we're looking for an SNP supported Labour with a workable majority, but I think the chance of Labour getting an outright majority or even close to it is slim.

Miliband is benefiting from not being as bad in the Paxman interview as many thought he would be, but I can't see that bounce lasting six weeks. I think Nicola Sturgeon could rip him a new one in the seven leader debate, and I think she needs to; if she is seen to pander to Labour it could send out the wrong message.

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SNP supporting 50p top tax rate all of a sudden when it wasn't that good an idea 6 months ago.............one can only speculate as to why. My take is to further cosy up to the SNP=Labour idea when the truth is SNP = Tory, and that's the way they like it.

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SNP supporting 50p top tax rate all of a sudden when it wasn't that good an idea 6 months ago.............one can only speculate as to why. My take is to further cosy up to the SNP=Labour idea when the truth is SNP = Tory, and that's the way they like it.

So who does Labour equal if SNP = Tory? UKIP? I guess that makes the Tories the BNP.

Nobody cares about the Lib Dems.

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SNP supporting 50p top tax rate all of a sudden when it wasn't that good an idea 6 months ago.............one can only speculate as to why. My take is to further cosy up to the SNP=Labour idea when the truth is SNP = Tory, and that's the way they like it.

Why does the SNP equal Tory? Just interested if there's any reasoning behind this gibberish.

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SNP supporting 50p top tax rate all of a sudden when it wasn't that good an idea 6 months ago.............one can only speculate as to why. My take is to further cosy up to the SNP=Labour idea when the truth is SNP = Tory, and that's the way they like it.

pretty wild accusation there, I would argue that the 2 parties are pretty far apart. Can you enlighten me?

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Its just nonsense either way. The SNP would only prop up a Labour govt so its just a vote for Labour with a Scottish voice.

A vote for the SNP is of no benefit to the Tories, and ideologically they are the two furthest apart of all main parties. So its nonsense either way.

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SNP supporting 50p top tax rate all of a sudden when it wasn't that good an idea 6 months ago.............one can only speculate as to why. My take is to further cosy up to the SNP=Labour idea when the truth is SNP = Tory, and that's the way they like it.

You better tell Pete that.

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Tubbs just represents your average post-referendum No voter, utterly despondent and disbelieving at the political direction the nation has taken. The best part is, most of the ~30% of goons among the electorate that still cling to Labour are in an equally, if not greater, state of seethe.

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Cameron's doubled the national debt you fucking clown.

I always find it amusing when you get right-wing zoomers talking as if they are economic seers whilst talking absolute horse shit.

Doubled the national debt, What socialist worker pamphlets have you been reading? I won't sink to your moronic abuse level, despite the temptation. Away and play nice though, another failed community order case.

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Doubled the national debt, What socialist worker pamphlets have you been reading? I won't sink to your moronic abuse level, despite the temptation. Away and play nice though, another failed community order case.

http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_national_debt_chart.html

£0.76 when he took over, £1.36 now.

As ever the lunatic right-winger has no grasp of basic facts.

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Doubled the national debt, What socialist worker pamphlets have you been reading? I won't sink to your moronic abuse level, despite the temptation. Away and play nice though, another failed community order case.

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The right wing policies of the last 30-40 years have brought the west to the edge of the abyss in economic terms. It's also seen a massive divide in our society between the have's and have not's.

f**k that - give me socialism any day.

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SNP supporting 50p top tax rate all of a sudden when it wasn't that good an idea 6 months ago.............one can only speculate as to why. My take is to further cosy up to the SNP=Labour idea when the truth is SNP = Tory, and that's the way they like it.

:lol:

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http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/uk_national_debt_chart.html

£0.76 when he took over, £1.36 now.

As ever the lunatic right-winger has no grasp of basic facts.

And lunatic leftists do? Your ideological cousin Miliband doesn't even know the deficit exists. The spike in national debt started in 2008 under your socialists, had to be paid for post 2010, including massive interest, continued pumping of money into the economy to revive it, and reduced taxation collection, all as result of their policies - including the spiraling welfare bill. If Labour had stayed in office there is a good chance we would be bust like Greece, if they win in May good chance that will be back on course. Cameron will at least bring down the deficit, which is the only way forward. To suggest Cameron, or the Conservatives, are to blame for the catastrophe of public finance they inherited is laughable, and 1.36 is not 1.52.

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