Thumper Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 It would be Carmichael surely? ^_~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 If Murphy loses his seat he might not have any choice but to step down as per party rules Just zipped down...keep on speaking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 It would be Carmichael surely? Is he planning to defect to Labour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Is he planning to defect to Labour? I believe his arse is for rent for any party with a little power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I believe his arse is for rent for any party with a little power. You've just made me think of Alistair Carmichael's arse. As we say down here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 It has to be Murphy himself. Everyone has categorically ruled out the possibility of the SNP getting cabinet seats, and if it isn't a Scottish MP then Labour might as well unilaterally declare Scotland independent themselves. Oh my absolute word, the joy of it having to be Willie Bain because he's the only Labour MP left in Scotland would be beyond orgasmic. If Murphy was appointed Scottish Secreatry it would be the final nail in the coffin for Scottish Labour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints1884 Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 According to STV news,Murphy thinks he can still win seats here in Scotland! Edit to add a link. http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/317301-leader-jim-murphy-insists-scottish-labour-can-still-win-most-seats/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 According to STV news,Murphy thinks he can still win seats here in Scotland! Edit to add a link. http://news.stv.tv/scotland-decides/317301-leader-jim-murphy-insists-scottish-labour-can-still-win-most-seats/ What else can he say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 What else can he say? Defcon fucked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 If Murphy does his WM seat, I can see one of Labour's faceless constituency MSP's hastily resigning "to spend more time with their family" in an attempt to let Jim back in. Good chance of double lols if he lost a by-election as well. If Murphy loses his seat his career is over. He would be expected to resign ASAP, because there is no way they would let him anywhere near another election campaign. Even if he wins his seat I seriously doubt that his "leadership" could survive a near wipeout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 If Murphy loses his seat his career is over. He would be expected to resign ASAP, because there is no way they would let him anywhere near another election campaign. Even if he wins his seat I seriously doubt that his "leadership" could survive a near wipeout. I don't think that's an unreasonable POV I just don't see who they get in to replace him. They truly are fucked. I said it here months ago and balls and umannas contributions nailed it for me this week. We will see a schism in Labour with a Scottish party emerging from the ashes of this clusterfuck. Driven by expediency they will be at least neutral on independence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuzzyAffro Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 I don't think that's an unreasonable POV I just don't see who they get in to replace him. They truly are fucked. I said it here months ago and balls and umannas contributions nailed it for me this week. We will see a schism in Labour with a Scottish party emerging from the ashes of this clusterfuck. Driven by expediency they will be at least neutral on independence. They can't be though, for a couple of reasons that is impractical. First of all they have been straining every sinew for a long time to convince us that there already is a separate Scottish Labour party. Secondly if they were to do that every single current senior member of 'Scottish' Labour couldn't be involved, as they all just spent two years nailing their colours firmly to the mast. Labour are fucked, its over for them now. 113 years and we are now in the death throes. They will carry on but will never again be the force they were. The unforeseen consequence of the referendum was the death of Labour, and also the SNP becoming the establishment party in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
git-intae-thum Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't think that's an unreasonable POV I just don't see who they get in to replace him. They truly are fucked. I said it here months ago and balls and umannas contributions nailed it for me this week. We will see a schism in Labour with a Scottish party emerging from the ashes of this clusterfuck. Driven by expediency they will be at least neutral on independence. I think you are right. Then we just need the independent centre right party and its full house. Independence within a generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 There's absolutely no way he'll resign. He'll use the referendum as an excuse and stumble along until May next year. It would be tremendous if Murphy was to lose his Westminster seat then stumble along as leader until May 2016, when Labour take another drubbing as he gets in on the list followed by being forced to resign as leader and kick about as a back bencher at Holyrood. For the archetypal example of the Labour Parliamentarian who looks on Holyrood as a mickey mouse parliament rather than the most important stage for Scottish politics, it would be terrific to see. It has to be Murphy himself. Everyone has categorically ruled out the possibility of the SNP getting cabinet seats, and if it isn't a Scottish MP then Labour might as well unilaterally declare Scotland independent themselves. Oh my absolute word, the joy of it having to be Willie Bain because he's the only Labour MP left in Scotland would be beyond orgasmic. Ooft, the thought of Bain being Labour's main Scottish representative against some of the strongest debaters in the SNP is genuinely enough to make you feel sorry for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints1884 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't think that's an unreasonable POV I just don't see who they get in to replace him. They truly are fucked. I said it here months ago and balls and umannas contributions nailed it for me this week. We will see a schism in Labour with a Scottish party emerging from the ashes of this clusterfuck. Driven by expediency they will be at least neutral on independence. Gordon Brown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Gordon Brown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Brian Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Gordon Brown! When all else fails turn to Gordy. He's been quiet for a week or so I was just thinking last night that they must be due to wheel him out...for the hundredth time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The fact that Brown even has a shred of credibility left shows how misinformed/stupid certain folk are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fide Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 The fact that Brown even has a shred of credibility left shows how misinformed/stupid certain folk are. The fact that 24% of the electorate still intend to vote for the Northern British accounting unit of the Labour party is testament to how misinformed and stupid people can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonds2002 Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I just found this gem from January and thought it needed to be flagged up given the week that Jim has had http://www.buzzfeed.com/jamieross/its-been-easy-its-been-to-outdo-the-snp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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