AUFC90 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 HB still casting his obvious line I see.... So sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 HB still casting his obvious line I see.... So sad. The banning of Supras has given me hope of one day having an H_B-free forum. I can but dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 He loves this forum too much to step out of line. He's a very sad individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaldo Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 If Supras was banned for trolling an entire sub-forum whilst adding absolutely nothing to any other discussion on the site then H_B can't possibly have long left. Can't see the Falkirk Unionist Mafia banning him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phone Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Yeah HB has a FK postcode which instantly makes him unbannable. He's without doubt the worst poster on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 What does that busted flush loser's view have to do with anything ? He's yesterdays man..Ignominious departure following shattering defeat. Pleasing. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ He ain't worried, no sirreee he ain't worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 An English vote to take the UK out of the European Union if Scots vote to stay could be the “tipping point” that brings about another independence poll, Salmond told The Times. Tough shit lads everyone was well aware (from both sides) that there may be an eu referendum in 2017 but scotland votd no. No there isn't. It'll be a prepped up Labour Government. (Unless of course they want another 4 years of tory government, which might not bother Labour so much these days) The tories can't rule out a future referendum. Referendums are a democratic right. They would be breaking international law by refusing. You just made that up didnt you? Cumon tae fuk here lads, im a yes supporter and im dispairing at some of the ideas on here. you need to move away from the che guavara t-shirt politics and idea if you ever want to win. start by reflecting on where yes went wrong and what can be done better if and when theres a next time. instead of lambasting no voters , taking the moral high ground and being scottish glorius failures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Tough shit lads everyone was well aware (from both sides) that there may be an eu referendum in 2017 but scotland votd no. Well, I disagree. The debate was not like that. Mind Yes = no EU? Cumon tae fuk here lads, im a yes supporter and im dispairing at some of the ideas on here. you need to move away from the che guavara t-shirt politics and idea if you ever want to win. start by reflecting on where yes went wrong and what can be done better if and when theres a next time. instead of lambasting no voters , taking the moral high ground and being scottish glorius failures Its a long, long fight. Why not sit back and relax, laugh at Red Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 True as that is, david cameron promised an eu referendum ages before the scottish one, the yes side even tried to capitalise on that saying a yes vote was the only way to garantee eu membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 True as that is, david cameron promised an eu referendum ages before the scottish one, the yes side even tried to capitalise on that saying a yes vote was the only way to garantee eu membership. And the Unionists got a raft of European experts and officials to say that Scotland wouldn't be guaranteed EU membership after a Yes vote and got far more publicity with it, what's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 http://scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk/2014/12/support-for-independence-reaches-50-for.html Support for second referendum within ten years rises to 56.4% also, Yes would get 50% of the vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 True as that is, david cameron promised an eu referendum ages before the scottish one, the yes side even tried to capitalise on that saying a yes vote was the only way to garantee eu membership. Still valid though mate. Not sure they'd win it quite yet. So, not sure its wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H_B Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 And the Unionists got a raft of European experts and officials to say that Scotland wouldn't be guaranteed EU membership after a Yes vote and got far more publicity with it, what's your point? Yes.. Isn't it a real c**t when you can't just make things up a la Nicola sturgeon and not be called on it? Damn those Europeans and experts with all their facts. The SNP might have got away with lying to the Scottish people through their teeth if it wasn't for those pesky experts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUFC90 Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Only stupid cnuts genuinely believe that we wouldn't have got in to the EU. East Germany got in in a matter of months and they hadn't been contributing to the EU for 40 years like Scottish taxpayers have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Yes.. Isn't it a real c**t when you can't just make things up a la Nicola sturgeon and not be called on it? Damn those Europeans and experts with all their facts. The SNP might have got away with lying to the Scottish people through their teeth if it wasn't for those pesky experts... What's the point of this? We can't be in the EU, with Yes or No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Still valid though mate. Not sure they'd win it quite yet. So, not sure its wise. because scotland voted to stay in the uk. europe or no europe, we voted to stay in the uk , a non federal state which then voted itself out of the EU. have we just to have a referendum every time england does something we dont like? They could easily tell us to f**k off. youre on a hiding to nothing here. we cant have another referendum for at least 15 years, i want independance now but youve got to be fair. accept this years result and move on to the future. imagine we voted yes in september and the unionists were demanding another vote becuase of the oil price? but things have changed they would say! imagine the scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 because scotland voted to stay in the uk. europe or no europe, we voted to stay in the uk , a non federal state which then voted itself out of the EU. have we just to have a referendum every time england does something we dont like? They could easily tell us to f**k off. youre on a hiding to nothing here. we cant have another referendum for at least 15 years, i want independance now but youve got to be fair. accept this years result and move on to the future. imagine we voted yes in september and the unionists were demanding another vote becuase of the oil price? but things have changed they would say! imagine the scenes Why do you believe it's fair to bind future Holyrood governments legislating on holding another independence referendum because we held one in 2014? We were told they couldn't make the Holrood parliament permanent because you can't bind future Westminster governments on legislature passed by previous governments. And where are you getting the 15 years figure from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 Why do you believe it's fair to bind future Holyrood governments legislating on holding another independence referendum because we held one in 2014? We were told they couldn't make the Holrood parliament permanent because you can't bind future Westminster governments on legislature passed by previous governments. And where are you getting the 15 years figure from? Fair becuase to do otherwise would be asking the question untill you get the answer you want. besides 15 years is a pretty small generational gap anywhere outside fife . im sorry to say lads we lost. we cant just demand a rematch right away. what kind of confidence would that give the voters on scottish democracy if it was percieved that the very thing we were being asked to vote into existance wouldnt take no for an answer. got to play the long game im afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthEnclosure Posted December 23, 2014 Share Posted December 23, 2014 No there isn't. It'll be a prepped up Labour Government. (Unless of course they want another 4 years of tory government, which might not bother Labour so much these days) The tories can't rule out a future referendum. Referendums are a democratic right. They would be breaking international law by refusing. The SNP, Labour and Lib Dems will bend over backwards to deny the British people a vote on Europe, so much for "democratic rights". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted December 23, 2014 Author Share Posted December 23, 2014 Fair becuase to do otherwise would be asking the question untill you get the answer you want. besides 15 years is a pretty small generational gap anywhere outside fife . im sorry to say lads we lost. we cant just demand a rematch right away. what kind of confidence would that give the voters on scottish democracy if it was percieved that the very thing we were being asked to vote into existance wouldnt take no for an answer. got to play the long game im afraid You didn't really answer my question as to why it's 15 years. Why not 10? why not 20? And why can't we "demand a rematch right away"? If it's in the party manifesto before the election and the people vote the party into government is that not democracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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