Gordon EF Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 2 Lib Dem voters? Those had to be a joke… right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Can anyone explain why P&B polls have been so massively in favour of Scottish Independence and the SNP? It seems skewed way beyond any rational explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Can anyone explain why P&B polls have been so massively in favour of Scottish Independence and the SNP? It seems skewed way beyond any rational explanation. A much younger and much more male cross section than the wider electorate for a start. Both indicators which tend to favour the SNP and independence. Also, folk that can't use computers don't post here - takes away a lot of Labour/No voters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 A much younger and much more male cross section than the wider electorate for a start. Both indicators which tend to favour the SNP and independence. Also, folk that can't use computers don't post here - takes away a lot of Labour/No voters. Ignoring the last bit, yes I appreciate the demographic of P&B posters but it still disproportionate. Not complaining mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBud Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 2 Lib Dem voters? Those had to be a joke… right? I know. Who's the second one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Ignoring the last bit, yes I appreciate the demographic of P&B posters but it still disproportionate. Not complaining mind. I'm guessing non-OF football fans tend to identify much more strongly as Scottish rather than British as well, on average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I tend to think of Green supporters as well intentioned people who take politics seriously. That said I don't really understand why they would vote Green in this particular election; particularly given that most people are recognising could see a sea change in Scottish politics. A vote for SSP in this election is also a waste but I don't see the point in trying to engage SSP supporters in a debate on the merit of voting any other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I tend to think of Green supporters as well intentioned people who take politics seriously. That said I don't really understand why they would vote Green in this particular election; particularly given that most people are recognising could see a sea change in Scottish politics. A vote for SSP in this election is also a waste but I don't see the point in trying to engage SSP supporters in a debate on the merit of voting any other way. Overall vote percentage is still important, especially if the greens make serious inroads. Slowly slowly catchy monkey. Your logic is the same logic that says a vote for the snp is a vote for the Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotbawmad Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I tend to think of Green supporters as well intentioned people who take politics seriously. That said I don't really understand why they would vote Green in this particular election; particularly given that most people are recognising could see a sea change in Scottish politics. A vote for SSP in this election is also a waste but I don't see the point in trying to engage SSP supporters in a debate on the merit of voting any other way. That's because of the FPTP system. You either vote for the front runner, or you vote against them. Voting would be much better if it was like the European elections where it's proportional representation. That way there is no wasted votes. Yes, you might get a few more BNP types, but at least it's representative and not going to warp the political landscape if 6 of them get in among a sea of 600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man of Aran Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Will be voting SNP for the first time in West Dunbartonshire. Despite being an unquestioned Labour heartland since the dawn of time I am fully expecting SNP to win. Which will be extra hilarious given Gemma Doyle's pathetically desperate plea for votes all over social media in recent weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Can anyone explain why P&B polls have been so massively in favour of Scottish Independence and the SNP? It seems skewed way beyond any rational explanation.This politics forum isn't really the place to come if you have opposing political views tbh. Some do it, but if you can't be arsed with endless argument, ridicule, and stuff like 'verge of tears' and 'how come sport' or 'champ', you probably would bother. It would be like a socialist constantly visiting Conservative Home or something. Also, nationalist politics is a simple concept which is easy to get behind and drum up loud mouth support for. You don't have to think much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 This politics forum isn't really the place to come if you have opposing political views tbh. Some do it, but if you can't be arsed with endless argument, ridicule, and stuff like 'verge of tears' and 'how come sport' or 'champ', you probably would bother. It would be like a socialist constantly visiting Conservative Home or something. Also, nationalist politics is a simple concept which is easy to get behind and drum up loud mouth support for. You don't have to think much. ^^^^verge of tears Seriously though, what a load of absolute shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Overall vote percentage is still important, especially if the greens make serious inroads. Slowly slowly catchy monkey. Your logic is the same logic that says a vote for the snp is a vote for the Tories. Totally ridiculous comment.Whilst the referendum is past there is no doubt that the result of this General Election and next year's Scotish Parliamentary Election will have a major I fluency on the whole Independance issue. The best thing for the Greens and the SSP would be an independent Scotland with a PR system for elections, therefore the best thing in this election is to return as many SNP MPs as possible. It's simple, tactical voting. People could revert to their party of choice I next years election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 This politics forum isn't really the place to come if you have opposing political views tbh. Some do it, but if you can't be arsed with endless argument, ridicule, and stuff like 'verge of tears' and 'how come sport' or 'champ', you probably would bother. It would be like a socialist constantly visiting Conservative Home or something. Also, nationalist politics is a simple concept which is easy to get behind and drum up loud mouth support for. You don't have to think much. Unlike complicated British Nationalist concepts such as 'breaking up our family of nations', 'turning your family into foreigners', and 'the broad shoulders of the Union' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 BerwickMad clearly hasn't read an H_B post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Totally ridiculous comment. Whilst the referendum is past there is no doubt that the result of this General Election and next year's Scotish Parliamentary Election will have a major I fluency on the whole Independance issue. The best thing for the Greens and the SSP would be an independent Scotland with a PR system for elections, therefore the best thing in this election is to return as many SNP MPs as possible. It's simple, tactical voting. People could revert to their party of choice I next years election. Exactly, the more SNP votes at GE2015 then the more likely Holyrood will be able to extract some real powers from Westminster which means the more power the minority parties of Scotland will have in SE2016. The performance of the Scottish Greens over the last couple of years has almost guaranteed they will get my list vote next year. An SNP/ Green Alliance in Holyrood with real home rule powers would be a pretty good runners up prize to losing the independence referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 People should simply vote for the party they want to vote for. Tactical voting does my head in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerwickMad Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Unlike complicated British Nationalist concepts such as 'breaking up our family of nations', 'turning your family into foreigners', and 'the broad shoulders of the Union'Unlike? Not really. Pretty similar in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 People should simply vote for the party they want to vote for. Tactical voting does my head in. Yeah, even fairly simple concepts can be difficult for the intellectually challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Just as a matter of interest today's YouGov Scottish sub-sample poll has the SNP on 51%. If I'm not mistaken that might be the highest yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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