AUFC90 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 It's because UKIP have taken a share of the Tory vote in England. Labour and the Tories are neck and neck at the moment. Fwiw I think the SNP have done quite well in power in Scotland. Free prescriptions and school meals for p1 to p3 pupils are excellent policies to help the poor. What should not be forgotten is that it was Labour who introduced the minimum wage and working tax credits. 2 policies the Tories opposed. The 2 parties are not the same. Far from it.No.... That's where both of us differ. I have forgotten what they did in the PAST. Now they are a party for austerity, renewal of Trident and fracking. They have a silver spoon leader who wants to govern like Thatcher. There isn't much difference between the red Tories and the blue Tories for one simple reason. If Labour were to get back to their roots and lurch to left, they would be unelectable in right wing England. I'd rather have the Tories because at least they show some semblance of competency. Labour are a joke. ETA can you please explain why the rise of UKIP and their massive haul of like 6 seats at the most really affects the graph I posted. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Gorilla Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 No.... That's where both of us differ. I have forgotten what they did in the PAST. Now they are a party for austerity, renewal of Trident and fracking. They have a silver spoon leader who wants to govern like Thatcher. There isn't much difference between the red Tories and the blue Tories for one simple reason. If Labour were to get back to their roots and lurch to left, they would be unelectable in right wing England. I'd rather have the Tories because at least they show some semblance of competency. Labour are a joke. ETA can you please explain why the rise of UKIP and their massive haul of like 6 seats at the most really affects the graph I posted. Cheers. UKIP will take votes from the Tories in close run seats benefitting Labour. They might not win a shed load of seats but their votes will affect the outcome of other seats closely contested by Tory and Labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Labour, prefer the Greens' policies but they have no chance in my constituency. It's a two-way marginal between Labour and the Lib Dems and I hate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodjesSixteenIncher Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The naive and foolish will vote SNP and wake up with another Tory government You're assuming folk voting SNP give a shit about Labour getting in. Worrying about whether it'll be New Labour or the Tories in charge is my idea of naivety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Joseph Stalin Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 It's because UKIP have taken a share of the Tory vote in England. Labour and the Tories are neck and neck at the moment. Fwiw I think the SNP have done quite well in power in Scotland. Free prescriptions and school meals for p1 to p3 pupils are excellent policies to help the poor. What should not be forgotten is that it was Labour who introduced the minimum wage and working tax credits. 2 policies the Tories opposed. The 2 parties are not the same. Far from it. Poor children already got free school meals, that only benefited the 'rich'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~ Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The Tories don't get such a small share of the votes as its made out to be, encouraging them to vote SNP to get a Tory UK government isn't exactly the smartest idea from Labour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Gorilla Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Poor children already got free school meals, that only benefited the 'rich'. It will benefit me. I'm not rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Gorilla Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 You're assuming folk voting SNP give a shit about Labour getting in. Worrying about whether it'll be New Labour or the Tories in charge is my idea of naivety. Some do, some don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P45 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Poor children already got free school meals, that only benefited the 'rich'. The Government taxes people to f**k then gives them a cheap school meal to look like it's helping. #politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bairn Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 If it's a hung parliament, the sitting government gets the first chance to form any potential coalition. Also, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't tell the truth with regards to their voting intentions either online or over the phone. That's the codified practice, yes. However if you look back to 2010, the Liberal Democrats made it clear that they would negotiate first with the party that won the most seats. This year might be rather different because in 2010 you had a clear kingmaker party, whereas this time you have 3 or 4 parties all vying to hold varying degrees of power. We know the SNP won't support the Tories, and you can pretty much extend that to Plaid and the Greens as well, so you can more of less add their total on to what Labour get. The DUP and UKIP are the exact opposite, we know they probably will support the Tories and not Labour. So basically you have LAB/SNP/PC/GRN/SDLP/Respect v CON/UKIP/DUP. The interesting thing is that the question of whether one of these sides makes it to the magic number 326 is more or less proportional to how bad the Lib Dem collapse it. So if they can hold on to 40+ seats, then they'll still be the kingmakers, but if they lose any more than that then one of the two main parties will probably be able to form a government without relying on LD support. I think the SNP have strategically weakened their position a bit by saying in as many words that they would only support a Labour administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Gorilla Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 The Government taxes people to f**k then gives them a cheap school meal to look like it's helping. #politics It's still a good policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffo Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 It's still a good policy.Its not a recent policy tho and that's what people are trying to point out to you.Labour as it stands now would be exactly the same as the Tories in pandering to the right wing English vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Gorilla Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Its not a recent policy tho and that's what people are trying to point out to you. Labour as it stands now would be exactly the same as the Tories in pandering to the right wing English vote. It only started last month and it's an SNP policy. Maybe you should read my post againhttp://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-30671988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Urban Gorilla's fascinating as I genuinely believed the Daily Record didn't have anyone who bought their editorial line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxter Parp Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Poor children already got free school meals, that only benefited the 'rich'. Working people aren't the "rich". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urban Gorilla Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Working people aren't the "rich". At least we agree on something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Jack D Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Working people aren't the "rich". Five words which show exactly why the Labour Party deserve the absolute kicking coming their way in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaikuHibee Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 SNP this time. Twenty-sixteen, might go Green. This is Westminster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Voted Labour in the last General Election in Ochil and South Perthshire. Will be voting SNP at this election in Ross, Skye and Lochaber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyerTon Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Tories are odds on to win this election overall. http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/next-uk-general-election/most-seats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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