1320Lichtie Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Champions League, UEFA cup, FA cup and League cup winner and still people are taking the piss Unreal Don't see what difference that makes to him as an individual or a player mind you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 He doesn't stack up to Frank Lampard in anything, trophies, games, goals, assists, caps. Can't understand the mass fawning over Gerrard when hes making the exact same career move as Lampard, who seems to have just been forgotten about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 He doesn't stack up to Frank Lampard in anything, trophies, games, goals, assists, caps. Can't understand the mass fawning over Gerrard when hes making the exact same career move as Lampard, who seems to have just been forgotten about. Gerrard has more caps Lampard has already had this last season when he left Chelsea I'd have Gerrard over Lampard at their peaks, but only marginally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawfieldAggro Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Champions League, UEFA cup, FA cup and League cup winner and still people are taking the piss Unreal Don't see what difference that makes to him as an individual or a player mind you Could apply the same logic to John Obi Mikel for Christ's sake. I'm not trying to convince you to not be a Gerrard fanboy....just kindly pointing out that he's basically engineered a helluva lot of his career at the expense, not betterment, of his club. And they've fucking let him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Luke Chadwick won the champions league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Fyvie Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Luke Chadwick won the champions league. No he didn't, Gaz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 The thing I find most tiresome about the whole Gerrard wankfest is the constant spouting of how loyal he was, when he really wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
callum-ayr Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Paul Scholes didn't really have a great international career because 1) he wasn't appreciated in the role he played in an England shirt, was largely played out of position and 2) he wasn't overall bothered about England. He gave up international football to focus on his career with United and to play as much as he could there. In the same aspect, Gerrard and Lampard wanted to play for England and did till they couldn't, but apart from more caps, they didn't achieve anything more at England than what Scholes did. All in all, Scholes never really fitted in to the "English" style of play, but neither did the Lampard/Gerrard combination, they could never find a formation to have both of them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Champions League, UEFA cup, FA cup and League cup winner and still people are taking the piss Unreal Don't see what difference that makes to him as an individual or a player mind you People aren't saying that he wasn't an extremely good player. They're saying that he wasn't as good as he's made out to be and isn't worthy of this level of fawning, which far surpasses the fuss about Lampard last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 People aren't saying that he wasn't an extremely good player. They're saying that he wasn't as good as he's made out to be and isn't worthy of this level of fawning, which far surpasses the fuss about Lampard last year. IMO he is As is Lampard Maybe Gerrards just more likeable down South, but you can't blame Gerrard for what the media are doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawfieldAggro Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 You're taking the piss about likeable, surely?? The English media have a pair of cuddly-toy clubs where the mood of the fans dictates the publicity surrounding the entire game, in Newcastle and Liverpool. City used to be the third until they finally shackled off the 'hapless loser' tag under Mancini, thus becoming reviled among journos and newscasters who relied heavily on licking up the tears of their poor supporters all those years. Regurgitating any old pish which keeps the Scousers in the belief that their horrible militant message is displayed to the world is vital to the continued memberships of your Sky TVs and sales of red-top headliners. Having one of their own as the poster boy ticks almost every box....so, they decide to fill the telly gantries with ex-Liverpool hereoes to compensate for the fact they've been shite since they started killing innocent Italians at Heysel. Gerrard is in on this as much as anyone. It wouldn't matter anywhere near as much if his medal haul proved it worthwhile. At least he'd know he'd done it on merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 No I wasn't taking the piss I think he's a really likeable guy As is Frank Lampard I have no idea why he induces such rage in some folk I have no idea why they've been going so OTT about Gerrard either when they didn't do the same for Lampard Can't say I'm bothered though, they both know they're as popular as each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Barcelona use Paul Scholes as a example in training. I've seen him play once and it was like he had a five yard forcefield around him. Always available for a pass and never wasted one. As a complete all round athlete, it's not really his game so hard to criticise. I rate Makelele highly, it's no coincidence that Madrid and Chelsea went into decline after he left. Alonso, the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev23 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Scholes is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattydfc Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Lamps > Stevie G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 ShawfieldAggro < ShawfieldAggro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 The thing I find most tiresome about the whole Gerrard wankfest is the constant spouting of how loyal he was, when he really wasn't. I know he probably would've had thoughts of going to Chelsea but at the end of the day he didn't, even if he had went t Chelsea and had a 2 club career that's pretty loyal in today's standards But he's played 504 games for Liverpool, only club he's been at for his entire career so far, how can that not be loyal? Seriously? Because he would've wanted out at one stage in that 17 year period? Surely that'd be normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 You're about to be told a story about gangsters and kneecapping him if he'd left. It's not a particularly good, or true, story. If you have five minutes to waste, stick around and see it out. There might even be another leg added onto it this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siley Myrus Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Scholes then prob Scholes again when he came back after retiring to clinch a league. he could prob control the whole game even now, but why would he, done it over and over again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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