Cardinal Richelieu Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 15 minutes ago, Randy Giles said: Can nobody fucking multiquote? 13 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: Wasn't referring to terrorism. Just general murder. Has immigration from certain countries contributed to higher murder rates than would otherwise be the case? Do you then cast aside your multicultural political principles? Or do you say that the price in human life is worth it? @TheProgressiveLiberal There is a + button to the left of each post's Quote button ... click that for each post that you want to quote.. then at the bottom right of the screen "Quote 2 posts" will appear ... click that and BANG! All your replies can be managed into one easy-to-delete post 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 21 minutes ago, chomp my root said: Maybe King Donald should send a 'fact finding mission' to Canada then. Sounds like the US could learn something to their benefit. Don't be silly. The best thing for an inherently violent people is for everyone to have military grade weapons so they can defend themselves against each other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: Not much learning can do to change things. Probably goes back to what became the US getting a generally lower class of British colonist in many parts, and went from there. Fair one, we had to send the dross somewhere. You've had influxes since then though, enough to dilute that bad Brit blood, maybe its time to try something radical and take the assault rifles away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Don't be silly. The best thing for an inherently violent people is for everyone to have military grade weapons so they can defend themselves against each other. Would make great TV right enough. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheProgressiveLiberal Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 14 minutes ago, chomp my root said: Fair one, we had to send the dross somewhere. You've had influxes since then though, enough to dilute that bad Brit blood, maybe its time to try something radical and take the assault rifles away. I've posted this a million times, but here's a million and one. We had an assault rifle ban. Our government studied it's effects. Their conclusion was that if it saved any lives it was too small a number to measure. Our Congress then chose to let the ban expire. You can look it up. Give an original population a head start of hundreds of years and it's hard to shake the original culture they put down. It can be done with enough immigration of course. There was very little immigration to the US south, which is the area that took a high % of lowest British colonists, until the past few decades. Almost all immigration was to the North, which was largely settled by nice middle of the road Brits and Germans. The poorest people in Ireland, Italy, etc moving there probably served to make the North more violent if I had to guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 41 minutes ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: I've posted this a million times, but here's a million and one. We had an assault rifle ban. Our government studied it's effects. Their conclusion was that if it saved any lives it was too small a number to measure. Our Congress then chose to let the ban expire. You can look it up. Give an original population a head start of hundreds of years and it's hard to shake the original culture they put down. It can be done with enough immigration of course. There was very little immigration to the US south, which is the area that took a high % of lowest British colonists, until the past few decades. Almost all immigration was to the North, which was largely settled by nice middle of the road Brits and Germans. The poorest people in Ireland, Italy, etc moving there probably served to make the North more violent if I had to guess. It might have been more effective if they'd removed the assault rifles still in circulation, all you had was a culture of those with them and those without, some of who did want them. That's why whenever there's even a whiff of another ban being put in place more go out and buy them to beat the anticipated 'dead'line. Things change anyway, there seems to have been an increase in the 'newsworthy' mass slayings, certainly more than there was leading up to the last ban. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban I'm assuming this is what you're referring to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Wasn't there a federal tax collector killed a few years back in the deep south? I think you would need near unanimous political will and public support to effectively disarm the entire population and it looks you'll never get that especially in such a polarised state the US is in now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 People still replying to Swampys racist troll account ffs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 People still replying to Swampys racist troll account ffs Awk it passes the boredom in work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 hours ago, TheProgressiveLiberal said: I'm not sure if the Wash Post is behind a paywall in the UK, but I assume you're talking about this video. The neighbor of the church who engaged the shooter and flagged down this gentleman was a NRA instructor. Is the previous poster correct that these people would face charges in Europe? That seems insane. The boy can afford a gun but not a fucking dentist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 17 minutes ago, Zen Archer said: The boy can afford a gun but not a fucking dentist. Trinny and Susannah would have a field day on the lad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 The neighbor of the church who engaged the shooter and flagged down this gentleman was a NRA instructor. Is the previous poster correct that these people would face charges in Europe? That seems insane. Murder charges seem insane to you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: Murder charges seem insane to you? They wouldn't face charges anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Zen Archer said: The boy can afford a gun but not a fucking dentist. It's hard to shoot someone with root canal work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chomp my root Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: It's hard to shoot someone with root canal work. Its even harder to know who does and who doesn't, I'm guessing you wouldn't take any chances and just slot everyone, regardless of their dental work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 They wouldn't face charges anyway. You’re trying to say if passers by perused a fleeing murderer and shot him dead, they wouldn’t face criminal charges in the UK or other European countries? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: You’re trying to say if passers by perused a fleeing murderer and shot him dead, they wouldn’t face criminal charges in the UK or other European countries? They didn't. Shots were exchanged, he was hit twice and drove away, they followed, he crashed and shot himself. If they hadn't intervened it's likely more people would be dead. You are allowed to use sufficient force to prevent a worse crime. There were a load of people hiding in restaurant (I think) across the road, it's likely they would have been next. If the bystanders had shot him in the head they would not have been charged in the UK. Edited November 7, 2017 by welshbairn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrshire_nomad Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Harvey Weinstein was defending himself from sexual attack by pre attacking, some lawyer should say cos it's the greatest country in america 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKMAN Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: They didn't. Shots were exchanged, he was hit twice and drove away, they followed, he crashed and shot himself. If they hadn't intervened it's likely more people would be dead. You are allowed to use sufficient force to prevent a worse crime. There were a load of people hiding in restaurant (I think) across the road, it's likely they would have been next. If the bystanders had shot him in the head they would not have been charged in the UK. The last I heard, it was unconfirmed whether he’d been fatally wounded by the bystanders or had killed himself. Either way, the fact that they actively pursued him in a high speed car chase whilst he was fleeing, which led to another shootout. They would be charged in the UK 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Just now, MONKMAN said: The last I heard, it was unconfirmed whether he’d been fatally wounded by the bystanders or had killed himself. Either way, the fact that they actively pursued him in a high speed car chase whilst he was fleeing, which led to another shootout. They would be charged in the UK There was no other shoot out and they were communicating with the police throughout the pursuit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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