ArabianKnight Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Feel free to correct me here, but is it not mooted that the chinese pulled out of the deal because of the political backlash that was occuring. Wonder who was doing the most shite flinging? Oh but now it's all the Scottish Government's fault. Right you are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Feel free to correct me here, but is it not mooted that the chinese pulled out of the deal because of the political backlash that was occuring. Wonder who was doing the most shite flinging? Oh but now it's all the Scottish Government's fault. Right you are. SNPbad covers all eventualities. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Feel free to correct me here, but is it not mooted that the chinese pulled out of the deal because of the political backlash that was occuring. Wonder who was doing the most shite flinging? Oh but now it's all the Scottish Government's fault.Right you are. If the deal fell apart months ago, why are we only finding out now? If the SNP/SG we're sure the reason (and blame) could be laid squarely at the feet of the opposition (and a hostile environment created by them) why didn't they say so at the time? Because they were trying to resurrect a deal that had already been labelled a 'shambles '' in China? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 So wait, the SNP bickering with their opponents at Holyrood is an example of anti-Englishness now? It's hard to take the "how dare they take ownership of Scottishness" routine too seriously when Unionists consider their own parties' MSPs to be representatives of England. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 2 hours ago, RedRob72 said: If the deal fell apart months ago, why are we only finding out now? If the SNP/SG we're sure the reason (and blame) could be laid squarely at the feet of the opposition (and a hostile environment created by them) why didn't they say so at the time? Because they were trying to resurrect a deal that had already been labelled a 'shambles '' in China? You are kind of answering your own question there. *if* the SNP were trying to resurrect deal after it fell apart due to a heated atmosphere caused by others , perhaps they decided it best to keep it out the spotlight until everything was dotted and signed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 You are kind of answering your own question there. *if* the SNP were trying to resurrect deal after it fell apart due to a heated atmosphere caused by others , perhaps they decided it best to keep it out the spotlight until everything was dotted and signed. You think so? I wouldn't trust this lot to run Mrs Goggins's f*ckin Post Office!! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: You think so? I wouldn't trust this lot to run Mrs Goggins's f*ckin Post Office!! Is that the Post office the UK gov privatised ? Edited November 7, 2016 by Pearbuyerbell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NotThePars Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 You think so? I wouldn't trust this lot to run Mrs Goggins's f*ckin Post Office!! Odd since the one thing the SNP can't really be criticised for is a lack of competency. I switched from the SNP to the Greens but it wasn't because of how poorly run the Scottish government is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Is that the Post office the UK gov privatised ? Think you are confusing the Post Office (still wholly state owned by the UK Government) and Royal Mail Plc (which the Government sold its remaining shares in, a 30% stake, in 2015) sorry to be pedantic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 17 minutes ago, RedRob72 said: Think you are confusing the Post Office (still wholly state owned by the UK Government) and Royal Mail Plc (which the Government sold its remaining shares in, a 30% stake, in 2015) sorry to be pedantic. Trust me I wasn't. The PO has been privatised by the UK Gov, that's why I said it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Stubbs Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Imagine if the scenes from England's prisons on the news there were from up here, or the junior doctors saga was happening in our NHS. The Unionists would explode. Not to mention the absolute shambles that is Brexit. Being used to having a slightly abstract, almost foreign feeling central Government seems to create a complex whereby Scotland running it's own shit is absolutely terrifying and Westminster can do no wrong. The SNP just about scrape pass marks for me, btw. I'd like to see more from Holyrood. Still, Unionists pulling the competency card atm are fucking kidding themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Imagine if the scenes from England's prisons on the news there were from up here, or the junior doctors saga was happening in our NHS. The Unionists would explode. Not to mention the absolute shambles that is Brexit. Being used to having a slightly abstract, almost foreign feeling central Government seems to create a complex whereby Scotland running it's own shit is absolutely terrifying and Westminster can do no wrong. The SNP just about scrape pass marks for me, btw. I'd like to see more from Holyrood. Still, Unionists pulling the competency card atm are fucking kidding themselves. Well putThe Holyrood election kept the SNP in place as the governing party but took away their overall majority They probably deserved both parts of that 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Robert, everytime I read your posts you make me embarrassed to be Scottish and live alongside other losers like you. Slit your wrist stuff. It really is SNP bad no matter what, a Glaswegian Tory purely because they are the Unionist party, no matter the consequence for Scotland. The even more frustrating thing is it boils down even further, to your religion and your football team. Horrible. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poo Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 35 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: Robert, everytime I read your posts you make me embarrassed to be Scottish and live alongside other losers like you. Slit your wrist stuff. It really is SNP bad no matter what, a Glaswegian Tory purely because they are the Unionist party, no matter the consequence for Scotland. The even more frustrating thing is it boils down even further, to your religion and your football team. Horrible. It has nothing to do with his football team. His football team are dead. About as dead as the tories prospects of gaining power in the Scottish Parliament. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearbuyerbell Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 It's perfectly possible hold pro-union views first and afterwards pick a football team that reflects this identify. Perhaps Rob can clarify whether he was a Brit-Nat before he first wore a Rangers tap ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Trust me I wasn't. The PO has been privatised by the UK Gov, that's why I said it. Post Office Ltd (The Counters business & network) remains wholly owned by HM Government. It split from the Royal Mail Group Plc in 2011, which was privatised. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Think he's stated several times he has a loyalist (fucking lol by the way) family from NI, hence the football team, hence him being a Brit Nat, Unionist. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moses1924 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 " a Glaswegian Tory purely because they are the Unionist party, no matter the consequence for Scotland " This could easily be applied to a lot of SNP supporters who would vote for a party that supported independence regardless of other policies and the consequences until the objective of independence has been attained. Not criticising people for this, it is justifiable in both independence and union supporters, one of the major long term consequences of indyref1 was to put constitutional issues at the forefront of many peoples politics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRob72 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 Robert, everytime I read your posts you make me embarrassed to be Scottish and live alongside other losers like you. Slit your wrist stuff. It really is SNP bad no matter what, a Glaswegian Tory purely because they are the Unionist party, no matter the consequence for Scotland. The even more frustrating thing is it boils down even further, to your religion and your football team. Horrible. What a f*ckin state to get yourself into, you have no f*ckin idea who I am, how I live my life, what my achievements are/are not and what remain future aspirations, personal and professional, yet you are able to judge a complete stranger 'as a slit your wrists loser'!!? I think that suggests a lot more about you as a person and perhaps your present maturity. Your stereotyping judgement is as prejudiced as anything you choose to throw at me based on my football team or family background for example. It's a sub page on a f*ckin football forum forfuxsake, different views, different opinions that's all. Calm yersel down ya silly wee lad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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