John Lambies Doos Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Agree with above. Complete shitebaggery by the north brits 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 4 hours ago, Gaz FFC said: People outside of Britain are probably really confused we have so many idiots wanting to stay. Tell them to watch the last night of the proms. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 41 minutes ago, MONKMAN said: I've got a few Belgian mates who genuinely couldn't believe, that a majority of people living in Scotland would choose to remain as part of Britain. Aye, but we don't like them because Jeremy Clarkson calls them boring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Aye, but we don't like them because Jeremy Clarkson calls them boring. He also called the Scots a bunch of tramps. Servility in your support 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Ferrino Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said: He also called the Scots a bunch of tramps. Servility in your support My support? Is this a whoosh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Lichtie makes the fundamental point there. We are governed by another country, they make all the decisions for us. We a are now like a child who has got old enough to have pocket money so we get to decide what sweets to buy, but they still make all the important decisions. And whose benefit do you think they have in mind when making them? Ours or theirs? Total no brainer, therefore so is independence. Just to be a country Li, e all others that governs itself according to what is best for itself, just like every other country in the world. The most natural, simple thing that all countries take for granted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirkyblue2 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Yeah let's break away from the tyranny of Westminster and rejoin the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 8 minutes ago, kirkyblue2 said: Yeah let's break away from the tyranny of Westminster and rejoin the EU. When did the EU last send Scotland to war despite every representative elected by the people of Scotland voting against it? When did the EU last install a government to rule Scotland despite Scotland voting against it? When did the EU last tell Scotland its membership of supranational unions can be scrapped even if every single council ward voted to retain membership? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 When did the EU last send Scotland to war despite every representative elected by the people of Scotland voting against it? When did the EU last install a government to rule Scotland despite Scotland voting against it? When did the EU last tell Scotland its membership of supranational unions can be scrapped even if every single council ward voted to retain membership? I don't think Westminster have ever "installed a Government to rule Scotland".Doubt that is ever high on the agenda of setting up a Govt.Its probably your angry wee Nat perception that the UK exists to stop Scotland achieving its true greatness or even qualifying for the World Cup for that matter.Dafties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 the UK exists to stop Scotland achieving its true greatness . That is genuinely literally what is happening. Maybe true greatness is a push but we literally cannot run our country the way we want it too and are held back by various restrictions on what we can and cannot decide for ourselves. Even if we have such differing views to people south of the border over a certain issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: I don't think Westminster have ever "installed a Government to rule Scotland".Doubt that is ever high on the agenda of setting up a Govt.Its probably your angry wee Nat perception that the UK exists to stop Scotland achieving its true greatness or even qualifying for the World Cup for that matter.Dafties. As opposed to your abject BritNat servility, which leads you to welcome every Tory government England elects, no matter how the Scottish people vote. I didn't say anything about the World Cup or "true greatness", you pathetic little troll. Edited December 12, 2016 by Antlion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 19 minutes ago, 1320Lichtie said: That is genuinely literally what is happening. Maybe true greatness is a push but we literally cannot run our country the way we want it too and are held back by various restrictions on what we can and cannot decide for ourselves. Even if we have such differing views to people south of the border over a certain issue. Loondave doesn't want the Scottish people to run Scotland. He's a regionalist, no matter what, utterly devoted to the belief that the clever boys and girls in Westminster, usually elected by the clever boys and girls in merry old England, do a better job than anyone us dolts might elect. It's odd but true that Loondave and his ilk genuinely believe that Scotland is better served by a government which doesn't need (or have) the votes of the Scottish people. If he had a brain, I'd consider it washed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Never fail to be amused by how easy wee angry Nats rise to the bait with their massive chips weighing down both shoulders.The slightest hint of not fully endorsing every breath the SNP utter leads to some pointless rant with accompanied foot stamping and pant wetting.Worse advert for Nationalism ever.The "pub bore" style delivery of the rant is ever funny.Accusing others of having closed minds is cool as well . I'd lock the door and shut the curtains if Antlion comes canvassing,rather let the Jehovas in.Less pressure... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 4 minutes ago, Antlion said: It's odd but true that Loondave and his ilk genuinely believe that Scotland is better served by a government which doesn't need (or have) the votes of the Scottish people. If he had a brain, I'd consider it washed. This is getting beyond tedious. If you seriously want to look at the "Scottish People" as some single collective where the majority opinion should be respected then answer this: How many Scottish people voted for and against parties that favour the retention of Westminster at the last Scottish Parliament elections in 2016? To help you try and get favourable numbers, you can use either the list or constituency voting. Once you have worked that out you can explain why your opinion is more valued than the majority of the "Scottish People". If Scotland is ever to get Independence then it needs to get a majority of Scottish People to vote for that outcome. People are not going to be convinced by attempts to ridicule their current position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Loondave1 said: Never fail to be amused by how easy wee angry Nats rise to the bait with their massive chips weighing down both shoulders.The slightest hint of not fully endorsing every breath the SNP utter leads to some pointless rant with accompanied foot stamping and pant wetting.Worse advert for Nationalism ever.The "pub bore" style delivery of the rant is ever funny.Accusing others of having closed minds is cool as well . I'd lock the door and shut the curtains if Antlion comes canvassing,rather let the Jehovas in.Less pressure... Like many on here, I for one see the SNP as a means to an end. You, however, are not only a poor advert for regionalism, but a poor excuse for a person. Have you ever sat back and actually questioned why you have to take to the Internet and "bait" as a pastime? That you know (and admit) it's something you do implies that you recognise it as a hobby - but it's a deeply troubling and sad one. As for accusing people of having "closed minds", that was you Tory pal, whose idea of "not endorsing every breath the SNP utter" is accusing anyone who votes SNP of being a xenophobe. Of course, you probably know this, and your post was yet more of your desperate crying for attention and notoriety from strangers. Edited December 12, 2016 by Antlion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Like many on here, I for one see the SNP as a means to an end. You, however, are not only a poor advert for regionalism, but a poor excuse for a person. Have you ever sat back and actually questioned why you have to take to the Internet and "bait" as a pastime? That you know (and admit) it's something you do implies that you recognise it as a hobby - but it's a deeply troubling and sad one. As for accusing people of having "closed minds", that was you Tory pal, whose idea of "not endorsing every breath the SNP utter" is accusing anyone who votes SNP of being a xenophobe. Of course, you probably know this, and your post was yet more of your desperate crying for attention and notoriety from strangers. Still ready to be reeled in i see.[emoji6][emoji6] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loondave1 Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 This is getting beyond tedious. If you seriously want to look at the "Scottish People" as some single collective where the majority opinion should be respected then answer this: How many Scottish people voted for and against parties that favour the retention of Westminster at the last Scottish Parliament elections in 2016? To help you try and get favourable numbers, you can use either the list or constituency voting. Once you have worked that out you can explain why your opinion is more valued than the majority of the "Scottish People". If Scotland is ever to get Independence then it needs to get a majority of Scottish People to vote for that outcome. People are not going to be convinced by attempts to ridicule their current position. The issue is that outside this mental asylum P&B forum the majority of Scots didn't and still don't agree with the main plank of SNP policy and that burns up all these evangelical SNP/Indy voters like getting Union Jack boxers on the 25th. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 At times this year I've felt I am getting lukewarm on independence but then I remember people like Murdo Fraser exist and know I'll always vote Yes in a heartbeat 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 That the brexit plan in place once may rejects it you know whats happening 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted December 20, 2016 Share Posted December 20, 2016 (edited) 15 minutes ago, doulikefish said: That the brexit plan in place once may rejects it you know whats happening Support for independence remaining static and sturgeon saying 'Ach we won't bother with a referendum after all'? Edited December 20, 2016 by sparky88 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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