When will indyref2 happen?

[Granny Danger]

2 hours ago, Ross. said:

I'm going to guess that I am considerably less boring than someone who has decided to create a new username simply for the purpose of adding comment to the politics forum on a football based website. Was your last one banned or are you a multi?

The reason trolls troll is to elicit a response.  If people don’t respond they will stop trolling.

 

[HTG]

12 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

Troll gets emptied off the politics sub

Unionists: the politics sub doesn't tolerate dissent from the SNP cult

Has it been emptied? 

[dirty dingus]

3 minutes ago, MixuFixit said:

Dunno, just generalising to what tends to happen.

See the trolls like glenanover, awra, scottwat and muckspreader are they all aliases of other posters on the wind up or genuinely unhinged rockets?

[sophia]

Such a pity and just as I was warming to the distinct and challenging repartee

 

[Malky3]

On 19/01/2020 at 19:04, Sunrise said:

Since you’re so keen to tell us what you think on independence, why don’t you share your wisdom about Boris’ deal?

 

I have no opinion on Boris Johnsons deal.

I voted to remain in the EU referendum because I believe that there was no credible argument made that suggested we would be better off out than in. 

 

On 19/01/2020 at 23:16, Baxter Parp said:

But the possibility of independence is a massive risk...right?

Did you actually read the report? Or did you just lift the propaganda and share it to all? 

The three biggest risks affecting the attractiveness of investing in Europe right now - according to the report - is 

Brexit, Political Instability, and a rise in nationalism. 

Do you think Indy Ref 2 would make Scotland more or less attractive than it is now? 

 

Later in the report it states

Europe has the tax stability that businesses find attractive. 

Do you think the SNP's increased levy on Scottish workers makes Scotland more or less attractive? And do you think the Nationalists demand for further increases in taxation makes Scotland more or less attractive? 

 

In 2019 Scotland was a part of the UK, as it is now. 

Do you think that Scotland would be anywhere near as attractive for foreign investment if it left the protection of one of the oldest and most successful political unions in the world to throw all the cards up in the air and become a newly independent state? 

 

Edited January 21, 2020 by Malky3

[Malky3]

8 hours ago, MixuFixit said:

I suspect glenanover was an actual real life pal of Malky who he phoned up to back him up. Tynie said he was always posting from a different IP address despite turning up as soon as Malky did.

Dunno about the rest.

Personally I suspect that most of the Nationalist users on these pages are aliases of the same person. After all I know there's a lot of politically stupid people out there but I have seldom seen such a strong concentration of them all in the one place. 

I don't need to phone anyone for back up. 

[Malky3]

11 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

Reported him over an inappropriate username. Hopefully the mods will take note like they did with his previous incarnations like Scotch Mist.

Seriously? Offended by a user name? 

Christ - have a look through the user names. I'd reckon at least 40% - 50% are inappropriate.

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[dirty dingus]

3 hours ago, Malky3 said:

Seriously? Offended by a user name? 

Christ - have a look through the user names. I'd reckon at least 40% - 50% are inappropriate.

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Can you show some examples of this near 50% of inappropriate user names Manky? It will give you something better to do in the wee small hours instead of running about barking at the yoon moon.

[Mastermind]

But the possibility of independence is a massive risk...right?

Ah, Scotland thriving within the UK, drink it in.

[Ira Gaines]

Mintermind

[Colkitto]

Nicola still intends to go ahead with indyref2 this year. Will update her response to UK Gov next week 

[NotThePars]

Nicola still intends to go ahead with indyref2 this year. Will update her response to UK Gov next week 

I can’t believe this is anything other than posturing if the Tories continue to say naw. More so if they get the backing of the courts.

[Colkitto]

1 minute ago, NotThePars said:

 

I can’t believe this is anything other than posturing if the Tories continue to say naw. More so if they get the backing of the courts.

 

I really hope it's not, I will write another letter to PM to consider his response type thing 

[tirso]

On 17/01/2020 at 17:24, Malky3 said:

You also want to argue that a minority of people in Scotland should be able to force an Independence Referendum on the rest of us.

No.   Speaking personally, all i'm asking is that a majority get what they ask for.  If there's a majority that desire it they should get it.  Not what an individual in Downing street or Bute House wants.

As things stand neither a majority nor minority can get anything.  It's entirely upto an individual in London.  That's not right.

All your posts about this have been made irrelevant because your argument doesn't rest now on the strength of your position.  It's nothing to do with you or any other Scottish citizen.  It's out of all of our hands on the say so of one  person and his team.  That's disrespect from all angles.

Edited January 21, 2020 by tirso

[Malky3]

5 hours ago, tirso said:

No.   Speaking personally, all i'm asking is that a majority get what they ask for.  If there's a majority that desire it they should get it.  Not what an individual in Downing street or Bute House wants.

As things stand neither a majority nor minority can get anything.  It's entirely upto an individual in London.  That's not right.

All your posts about this have been made irrelevant because your argument doesn't rest now on the strength of your position.  It's nothing to do with you or any other Scottish citizen.  It's out of all of our hands on the say so of one  person and his team.  That's disrespect from all angles.

The majority of Scots voted in 2014 to remain a part of the Union - you know that. We accepted things the way they were. Now we've got the minority losers angling to try to change things anyway. That is not a position of respect for the majority view. 

Nationalists are not democrats no matter how they try to portray themselves. They aren't interested in the majority view. They've been fighting a minority cause for Scottish Independence ever since way before the First World War. It's a journey that's seen their movement try to tout Scotland as a part of Hitlers Germany controlled by a Nazi Parliament set up in Dublin. It's a journey that has seen their members planting explosives in pillar boxes and attempting to chase away the "English White Settlers". It's a movement that has stood on an anti abortion, and anti gay platform for many decade, and whilst the current facade might be a little more palatable, with just a "handsy" ex leader up on two attempted rape charges, nine sexual assault charges, and two indecent assault charges, the movement is still as authoritarian, as dictatorial, as xenophobic and as oppressive of opposing political views as it has ever been. 

Here's a thought though. Instead of wasting your vote on a party that can never put that "one person" in Number 10, why not vote for a leader who can and then lobby them to allow the vote. In 2013 a Conservative Prime Minister sanctioned the 2014 Scottish Independence Referendum which Alex Salmond and the SNP declared would be a once in a generation vote. Maybe instead of screeching about how evil all Tories are, perhaps there is a better way to approach someone you want the help of. 

 

Edited January 21, 2020 by Malky3

[Malky3]

7 hours ago, Colkitto said:

Nicola still intends to go ahead with indyref2 this year. Will update her response to UK Gov next week 

I fully expect this to go on and on and on, as Sturgeon will be hoping desperately to distract all attention away from the up coming court case and any political fall out that might occur from her and her top party officials actions at the time. 

[lichtgilphead]

17 hours ago, Malky3 said:

Did you actually read the report? Or did you just lift the propaganda and share it to all? 

The three biggest risks affecting the attractiveness of investing in Europe right now - according to the report - is 

Brexit, Political Instability, and a rise in nationalism. 

I have no idea what publication Manky is quoting from (or if he's just making shite up again), but it's definitely not EY’s Attractiveness Survey
Scotland, 2019. Here's a link to the actual document

https://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/ey-scotland-attractiveness-survey-2019/$FILE/EY-scotland-attractiveness-survey-2019.PDF

Using Ctrl-F, we find that while "Brexit" is mentioned 5 times, the words "political" "instability" and "nationalism" appear on exactly ZERO occasions anywhere in the document.

"Rise" also appears on 5 occasions. Each time it's used, it's in a positive context e.g.  "a strong rise in Scotland’s attractiveness"

When it comes to Manky's selective quotations from a document, it's always best to check whether the quotations really exist. 

 

TL:DR? Manky's posting shite again!

 

 

[Malky3]

6 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

I have no idea what publication Manky is quoting from (or if he's just making shite up again), but it's definitely not EY’s Attractiveness Survey
Scotland, 2019. Here's a link to the actual document

https://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/ey-scotland-attractiveness-survey-2019/$FILE/EY-scotland-attractiveness-survey-2019.PDF

Using Ctrl-F, we find that while "Brexit" is mentioned 5 times, the words "political" "instability" and "nationalism" appear on exactly ZERO occasions anywhere in the document.

"Rise" also appears on 5 occasions. Each time it's used, it's in a positive context e.g.  "a strong rise in Scotland’s attractiveness"

When it comes to Manky's selective quotations from a document, it's always best to check whether the quotations really exist. 

 

TL:DR? Manky's posting shite again!

 

 

Oh dear. You are thick as mince really aren't you? 

Here's the REAL EY Attractiveness Survey Report - not just the unhinged Scotland version. 

https://assets.ey.com/content/dam/ey-sites/ey-com/en_gl/topics/attractiveness/ey-europe-attractiveness-survey-june-2019.pdf

Note this on Page 21

 

[Dan Steele]

Malky, are the EY Reports for Germany and France, Austria and Malta all "unhinged" as well, or is it just the Scottish one?

Why isn't there one specifically for England?

[lichtgilphead]

1 minute ago, Malky3 said:

Oh dear. You are thick as mince really aren't you? 

Here's the REAL EY Attractiveness Survey Report - not just the unhinged Scotland version. 

https://assets.ey.com/content/dam/ey-sites/ey-com/en_gl/topics/attractiveness/ey-europe-attractiveness-survey-june-2019.pdf

Note this on Page 21

 

No, Manky

You're looking at a totally different publication from the document under discussion.

The clue was in the title referenced in Baxter Parp's original post where it states "according to EY’s Attractiveness Survey Scotland, 2019. "

I would also point out that the words "rise in nationalism" don't appear in this document either. You were lying about that too

Maybe you had better stick to suggesting that Nicola Sturgeon is the reincarnated corpse of Adolf Hitler. It's more believable than any of your thoughts on economics.