Reina Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Aye, Murray's dishing out a hiding. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollymac Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Too close to call, this one. Was that 11 games on the spin that Murray took? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pollymac Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Melzer's broken Murray's serve 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyMack Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 I love the unexplained Spinal Tap style scab that Murray's got going on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staggy4life Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 Verdasco has never beaten Murray in the 5 previous meetings so Andy should get through this one on Monday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 24, 2009 Share Posted January 24, 2009 He's in section 2, Nadal's half of the draw.He first faces Andrei Pavel who should be relatively easily despatched. He's been a half decent player in his day but he's 34 now and has been out injured for about a year. If he wins that he'll face either Gabashvili of Russia or Granollers of Spain, neither of whom I've ever heard of! The Russian is ranked 64 in the world, the Spaniard is 50 so there's probably not an awful lot to choose between them and Murray ought to be way too good for either. No 31 seed Jurgen Melzer is the likely 3rd round opponent. Murray beat him in Davis Cup at Winbledon at the end of last year. He's not a bad player but also nowhere near Murray's class. Then it starts to get more complicated. He's seeded to meet Fernando Verdasco, No 14, in the last 16 although the dangerous Radek Stepanek or even Arnaud Clement could be there by then. Last eight could potentially see James Blake or Jo-Wilfried Tsonga in his sights. Here is where it gets really dangerous obviously and Tsonga, beaten finalist in the Aussie last year, knocked Murray out in the 1st round last year. Obviously if he makes last four then Nadal is likely to await and then either Djokovic or Federer in a final. So then Andrei Pavel Marcel Granollers Jurgen Melzer Fernando Verdasco The men's draw has been very predictable so far. At this precise moment David Nalbandian (10) is the highest seed to have lost, surprisingly to Lu of Taipei who has since lost to Robredo. Others in the top 16 to lose before they got there are David Ferrer (11) who lost to Cilic (19), hardly a major surprise, Ferrer mainly being a clay court player, Stanislas Wawrinka (15) who lost to Tomas Berdych (20), even less of a surprise probably and Robin Soderling (16) who lost to the unseeded Baghdatis which is definitely less of a surprise. Granted at the moment 13th seed Gonzalez, another clay court specalist, is 2-1 down to Gasquet in sets. I expect most people would have taken Gasquet to win that one. Nadal was an early break down to Haas but has got it back. So no real surprises so far and none at all in Murray's quarter where the four top 16 players are all still there. So it's Verdasco (14) next and, presuming he wins that, Blake (9) or Tsonga (5) after that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenose5 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) Aye we've established that. However, your original statement was that Murray had only beaten Fed in "minor events". Clearly you are now backtracking on this which is fair enough...we're all wrong sometimes You clearly dont understand what I am saying mate, im putting it all into comparison, we are talking about a grand slam event here. All competitions are minor compared to grand slams and many players can turn around and say they have won so many Masters series events but not as many can say they have won a grand slam which is far more impressive and in saying that Murray has never beaten Federer in a grand slam and nor has he ever won a grand slam either. It takes alot more skill and mental character to win a grand slam than any other event . One of my favourite players Marcos Baghdatis just got hammered 6-1 there in first set Djokovic in complete control. Edited January 25, 2009 by Bluenose5 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWeb Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 You clearly dont understand what I am saying mate Aye whatever. Time to move on I think 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 (edited) So thenAndrei Pavel Marcel Granollers Jurgen Melzer Fernando Verdasco The men's draw has been very predictable so far. At this precise moment David Nalbandian (10) is the highest seed to have lost, surprisingly to Lu of Taipei who has since lost to Robredo. Others in the top 16 to lose before they got there are David Ferrer (11) who lost to Cilic (19), hardly a major surprise, Ferrer mainly being a clay court player, Stanislas Wawrinka (15) who lost to Tomas Berdych (20), even less of a surprise probably and Robin Soderling (16) who lost to the unseeded Baghdatis which is definitely less of a surprise. Granted at the moment 13th seed Gonzalez, another clay court specalist, is 2-1 down to Gasquet in sets. I expect most people would have taken Gasquet to win that one. Nadal was an early break down to Haas but has got it back. So no real surprises so far and none at all in Murray's quarter where the four top 16 players are all still there. So it's Verdasco (14) next and, presuming he wins that, Blake (9) or Tsonga (5) after that. Trend of no surprises in the Aussie Open this time continues today albeit Federer did his best to buck it by going two sets down to Berdych! Federer, Roddick and Del Potro make a hat trick fo quarter finalists all seeded to get there. Djokovic will complete the set for the bottom half if he beats Baghdatis. He leads 2-1 in sets about to start the 4th at 1:45am in Melbourne! EDIT - Djokovic wins 3 sets to 1. What price the seeded players winning the other four tomorrow? When was the last time all of the top eight seeds made the last eight of a Grand Slam? You'd have to expect Nadal and Murray to win as long as they don't get injured. The Simon v Monfils and Tsonga v Blake matches should be closer though. Edited January 25, 2009 by Skyline Drifter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_binos Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Only skimmed a lot of the messages here so apologies if already mentioned but roughly what time will the Murray match be shown on monday? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWeb Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Only skimmed a lot of the messages here so apologies if already mentioned but roughly what time will the Murray match be shown on monday? 4th on second main court...allowing 2hrs a match would see it start around 6am. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris123 Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 A break to the good 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Murray needed that easy hold (start of 3rd). I'm sure he's had to defend break points in every service game bar the opener and that last one, hopefully he's getting it together now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual Insanity Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Deservedly out in 5 to Verdasco, hopefully this will calm a little of the hype. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Arch Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Only caught the last set, but he was overly cautious, and deservedly beaten by Verdasco. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Phoenix Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Proved beyond doubt this morning that he has a long way to go before he is ready to win a Major. He has all the playing "tools" - but his temperament (childish petulance) needs addressing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 (edited) Think the rally when he had a break point at 3-3 in the decider when you saw him struggling to draw breath might have been the end for him - I'll probably be in a crap mood all day now, I really thought he would get further than this! Edited January 26, 2009 by dubs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waspie Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Proved beyond doubt this morning that he has a long way to go before he is ready to win a Major.He has all the playing "tools" - but his temperament (childish petulance) needs addressing. Bit harsh Pheonix, I dont think he "has a long way to go". He reached the US final in September and has beaten all the other top guys, he is ready to win a Major. This defeat is really disappointing but we need to remember that Verdasco is a very dangerous player who when he hits his best form (not often enough) will push any player really hard. The frustrating thing for Murray is that the next Grand Slam in which he could be a real contender is now 8 months away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Bit harsh Pheonix, I dont think he "has a long way to go". He reached the US final in September and has beaten all the other top guys, he is ready to win a Major. This defeat is really disappointing but we need to remember that Verdasco is a very dangerous player who when he hits his best form (not often enough) will push any player really hard.The frustrating thing for Murray is that the next Grand Slam in which he could be a real contender is now 8 months away. Yeah that was always the danger. For all his great run lately you always felt he waas more susceptible than Fed or Nadal to losing to one of the dangerous players just outside the top four. To be honest I was far more concerned about Tsonga than Verdasco and I thought he'd reach the last eight at least but still. And as you say, Flushing Meadow before he has any genuinely realistic opportunity to try again in a Slam. He won't go terribly far at Roland Garros (if he reaches last eight that would be very good indeed) and Wimbledon is a reach too far also. If he avoids any reall grass court specialists in the draw he could make the last four but Nadal and Federer have much better grass court games than Murray. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted January 26, 2009 Share Posted January 26, 2009 Think he might be OK at Wimbledon with the crowd behind him, semis shouldn't be out of his reach, that's if he stays at #4 in the rankings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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