54_and_counting Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 i had man united both on the stan james (bet 20 and get a fiver per goal) offer and on this, cost me a grandtotal of 3.56 and its 60 quid in free bets smarkets has been fucking playing up though, kept getting disconnected tonight and had to keep logging out and in again, eventually got my man united lay on just a few goals from brentford tomorrow and maybe a corals reload and it will be a tidy weekend 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParT Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Trying to get my head around all this before taking the plunge. See the double delight hat trick heaven offers, how do you profit from those? For example, Spurs vs Liverpool at the weekend Kane first goal is 9/2. Say I put 20 quid on it. To lay him appears to me, having never placed a lay bet, that if I risk 24 quid I will win 4 quid. Also, is it the liability that comes off your balance or the stake amount? I'm probably repeating a question already asked on here but couldn't find it in the first few pages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanky_ffc Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 On 18/08/2016 at 22:21, Fat Joe da Gangsta said: 365 have offered me another deposit bonus. 50% up to £100 this time I have £100 wagering to finish on the last offer then I'll get on that. I only got offered 25% matched. Do Bet365 vary their offers depending on how long you've been with them? I only joined in May. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, lanky_ffc said: I only got offered 25% matched. Do Bet365 vary their offers depending on how long you've been with them? I only joined in May. More how you bet than how long you've been there, I'd guess. I use them if I ever want to do a muggy coupon or daft punt, and as a result I get lots of free bet and deposit bonus offers. If I bet with them on the way I do on the exchanges (large bets at what I think are good prices) I doubt I'd get anything other than limited. Edited August 26, 2016 by Nightmare 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WullieBroonIsGod Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 2 hours ago, ParT said: Trying to get my head around all this before taking the plunge. See the double delight hat trick heaven offers, how do you profit from those? For example, Spurs vs Liverpool at the weekend Kane first goal is 9/2. Say I put 20 quid on it. To lay him appears to me, having never placed a lay bet, that if I risk 24 quid I will win 4 quid. Also, is it the liability that comes off your balance or the stake amount? I'm probably repeating a question already asked on here but couldn't find it in the first few pages. DD/HH offers will be done like this (I'm making up the odds as I dont have access to them right now) Harry Kane is 9/2 (5.5 in decimal odds - if you are match betting you will be using decimal odds all the time). Place a bet on that for £20 Now Harry Kane can be layed on betfair at 5.9. So you would lay him for 18.80. You are laying at a bigger price than you are backing, so of course you are losing a small amount, known in the match betting game as a "qualifying loss" In this case it's £2.12 * So HK doesn't score first, net result -£2.12. Your exchange lay has won, your bookie bet has lost HK Scores first, but only scores one goal net result -£2.12. Your exchange lay has lost, your bookie bet has won HK Scores first, and scores another later in the game. You win a bonus £90 from the offer, So a total profit of £87.88 HK scoref first and get the hat trick - You win a bonus £180. Total profit it £177.88 * Use this calculator to work out lays stakes http://www.trickybet.net/lay-calculator-basic 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParT Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Excellent guide. Thanks for taking the time to show that. I take it the lay odds get closer to a match as we near kick off? Kane started off at 8.2 and is now down to 7 on betfair. Would you expect this to come down further? If so, would you always wait til as late as possible to do the lay part of the bet? Are there any other offers that can be done in shop rather than online? I work in town so there are loads of bookies round about me every day of the week. If I could earn £200/month from matched betting I'd be over the moon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WullieBroonIsGod Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 First goalscorer close matches are really hit and miss, particularly with the DDHH offer as Betfred tend to have poorer odds than both William Hill (they have an offer, if you bet the first goalscorer, but he scores second you get a refund) and Paddy (they occasionally do a special where if your player doesn't score first but scores anytime you get a refund). The money tends to come in to the market late on, so you will likely get your match in the hour leading up to kick off, which doesn't give you much time if you haveto then go to the shop to place the bet, and you will have to look out for the prices coming in. The golden rule for me is never take more than a 10% qualifying loss on the stake. As for in store offers, I'm really not sure. Havent been in a bookies in a long time.I think ladbrokes do a card (a grid card? someone will confirm) and I'm sure I've read about people getting in store offers on them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 You can easily make £200 a month doing matched betting. I think I made about £500 in my first month doing the basic PA sing up offers and a few reloads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 Backed Muthmir at 4.0 in the 3pm at Doncaster (£30 with free £30 bet if it loses). Laid it at 4.1 at Betfair - £22.22 stake for a liability of £68.88. If it wins, I make £90 from the bookie and lose £68.88 from Betfair. If it loses, I lose £30 at the bookies (but get the free bet) and win £21.11 after Betfair's commission. Am I right? If the horse loses, I just do the same thing with the free bet until I win at the exchange (so I don't need to complete the ridiculous turnover to withdraw winnings from the free bet)? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanny paddery Posted September 7, 2016 Share Posted September 7, 2016 9 hours ago, EvilScotsman said: Backed Muthmir at 4.0 in the 3pm at Doncaster (£30 with free £30 bet if it loses). Laid it at 4.1 at Betfair - £22.22 stake for a liability of £68.88. If it wins, I make £90 from the bookie and lose £68.88 from Betfair. If it loses, I lose £30 at the bookies (but get the free bet) and win £21.11 after Betfair's commission. Am I right? If the horse loses, I just do the same thing with the free bet until I win at the exchange (so I don't need to complete the ridiculous turnover to withdraw winnings from the free bet)? Looks right to me 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostin' Kev Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 Just had an email from betsafe about a free £50 bet this weekend haven't had a chance to take a proper look though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted September 9, 2016 Share Posted September 9, 2016 On 07/09/2016 at 14:26, EvilScotsman said: Backed Muthmir at 4.0 in the 3pm at Doncaster (£30 with free £30 bet if it loses). Laid it at 4.1 at Betfair - £22.22 stake for a liability of £68.88. If it wins, I make £90 from the bookie and lose £68.88 from Betfair. If it loses, I lose £30 at the bookies (but get the free bet) and win £21.11 after Betfair's commission. Am I right? If the horse loses, I just do the same thing with the free bet until I win at the exchange (so I don't need to complete the ridiculous turnover to withdraw winnings from the free bet)? thats a hell of a qualifying loss though, but money is money i suppose 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 thats a hell of a qualifying loss though, but money is money i suppose Is it?Maybe I didn't explain it right. N/R anyway - made £20 odd from that sign up though. Can't believe I've not done this before! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted September 10, 2016 Share Posted September 10, 2016 2 hours ago, EvilScotsman said: Is it? Maybe I didn't explain it right. N/R anyway - made £20 odd from that sign up though. Can't believe I've not done this before! I'll admit i dont do horse racing much, but a qualifying loss of over 8 quid seems high to me for a 30 quid bet, try keep them lower, for sign up offers the best thing to use them on is football i feel as you can search good matches and reduce your qualifying loss so more of the free bet is pure profit 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WullieBroonIsGod Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 On 9/10/2016 at 23:52, 54_and_counting said: I'll admit i dont do horse racing much, but a qualifying loss of over 8 quid seems high to me for a 30 quid bet, try keep them lower, for sign up offers the best thing to use them on is football i feel as you can search good matches and reduce your qualifying loss so more of the free bet is pure profit I would say thats a big qualifying loss too. I only really do the horse offers at the bigger festivals. Correct scores can be good for turning over a free bet, or an accumulator if you know how to lay it off sequentially 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanky_ffc Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 On 07/09/2016 at 14:26, EvilScotsman said: Backed Muthmir at 4.0 in the 3pm at Doncaster (£30 with free £30 bet if it loses). Laid it at 4.1 at Betfair - £22.22 stake for a liability of £68.88. If it wins, I make £90 from the bookie and lose £68.88 from Betfair. If it loses, I lose £30 at the bookies (but get the free bet) and win £21.11 after Betfair's commission. Am I right? If the horse loses, I just do the same thing with the free bet until I win at the exchange (so I don't need to complete the ridiculous turnover to withdraw winnings from the free bet)? That qualifying loss looks very big given the relatively narrow spread in odds (4.0 and 4.1). Are you sure you got your calculations right? I use the calculator on here: http://matchedbettingblog.com/matched-betting-calculator/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilScotsman Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 2 hours ago, lanky_ffc said: That qualifying loss looks very big given the relatively narrow spread in odds (4.0 and 4.1). Are you sure you got your calculations right? I use the calculator on here: http://matchedbettingblog.com/matched-betting-calculator/ On 10/09/2016 at 23:52, 54_and_counting said: I'll admit i dont do horse racing much, but a qualifying loss of over 8 quid seems high to me for a 30 quid bet, try keep them lower, for sign up offers the best thing to use them on is football i feel as you can search good matches and reduce your qualifying loss so more of the free bet is pure profit On 12/09/2016 at 09:45, WullieBroonIsGod said: I would say thats a big qualifying loss too. I only really do the horse offers at the bigger festivals. Correct scores can be good for turning over a free bet, or an accumulator if you know how to lay it off sequentially I think you're all correct. It was a N/R anyway. I think I've got the hang of it now, I've run through the sign up offers on the bookies I didn't already have accounts with - sadly that was quite a few of the bigger ones! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanky_ffc Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Haven't used NetBet in months, but got an email about a 150% bonus for deposits up to £50 Anyone know when Bet365 will be doing their next offer? Feels like months. The last I can remember is Arsenal-Liverpool on the opening day of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WullieBroonIsGod Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Anyone here still with PA? Ditched them a while back when I realised their subs were significantly more expensive than their competition. Got an OddsMonkey sign up for £15 a month, it includes their acca software too. Fantastic tools, night and day to PA's spreadsheets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 7 hours ago, WullieBroonIsGod said: Anyone here still with PA? Ditched them a while back when I realised their subs were significantly more expensive than their competition. Got an OddsMonkey sign up for £15 a month, it includes their acca software too. Fantastic tools, night and day to PA's spreadsheets. oddsmonkey is great, because i was with them ages ago mines is still 8 quid a month 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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