Granny Danger Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, oneteaminglasgow said: No, I don’t think we should. What particular difficulty does Gaelic appearing on signs cause? None but I don’t see it’s relevance. Gaelic is not and never has been the National language of Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: None. However it seems to cause dickless cringers completely disproportional seethe, so i'm all for it. While they're at it, perhaps these dafties could contact the SMC and Ordnance Survey and demand all our mountain name names be anglicised. Ruadh Stac-Mhor absolutely reeks of SNP-inspired Braveheart-ism. I'd rather it was known as "Big Red Stack". You think we should anglicise historic mountain names that were named at a time and in an area where Gaelic was spoken? That’s pretty bizarre, even for you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: You think we should anglicise historic mountain names that were named at a time and in an area where Gaelic was spoken? That’s pretty bizarre, even for you. Apologies. I was unaware the ability to detect sarcasm was one of the early casualties of senility. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, jupe1407 said: Apologies. I was unaware the ability to detect sarcasm was one of the early casualties of senility. I’m the one who should apologise,I never realised you were suffering from senility. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I’m the one who should apologise,I never realised you were suffering from senility. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 None but I don’t see it’s relevance. Gaelic is not and never has been the National language of Scotland.Maybe not, but it is an indigenous language of Scotland. I believe efforts should be made to promote and protect indigenous languages which are under threat, especially when the method to do so requires literally no effort and inconveniences no one. Do you disagree? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said: Maybe not, but it is an indigenous language of Scotland. I believe efforts should be made to promote and protect indigenous languages which are under threat, especially when the method to do so requires literally no effort and inconveniences no one. Do you disagree? I’m happy to see Gaelic protected in areas of Scotland in which it was historically used. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: I’m happy to see Gaelic protected in areas of Scotland in which it was historically used. Like Ayrshire? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 10 hours ago, Granny Danger said: You think we should anglicise historic mountain names that were named at a time and in an area where Gaelic was spoken? That’s pretty bizarre, even for you. A friend of mine likes to tell the story of somebody from the Ordance Survey going to a pub in Skye and asking the locals for the Gaelic names of the nearby mountains. These appeared in the next edition of the OS Map but were later removed when it was revealed they were obscenities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 There’s more relevant shit to criticise the SNP for recently than gaelic signs which cost f**k all in the grand scheme of things and are a nice cultural touch to a historically marginalised community. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 In the 2011 census, Glasgow City mirrored the Scottish average with 1.7% of the population able to speak Gaelic. Accordingly, the true figure is more than 170 times larger than your guess. An seo gus do chuideachadhTo continue a pedantic theme1.7% of the population is the number of people who reported being able to speak, read, write or understand spoken GaelicOnly 66.2% of them (1.1% of the population) said they could speak Gaelic And 37.2% (0.6% overall) had the full setTo complicate matters future this was entirely self reported so we’ve no definition of what level of skill they’re talking about.Some of these “Gaelic speakers” will be at the same standard as the ones that do the football commentary whilst some will be at more of a “Dos Servesas pour favor” level. So the 1.7% number is wrong and even the correct number is not particularly informative.If we’re looking for a verified level of ability then one of the best available measures would be how many people pass the higherThis regularly shows 17 year old Scotland to be massively more francophone, significantly better at Spanish and a bit better at German than at GaelicThis is particularly fitting here but n Edinburgh where most new citizens arrive in the RIE in Little France so it genuinely is the historic language of their birthplace 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Leaving to one side that place names from the tip to toe of Scotland have Gaelic origins thus demonstrating its widespread historic use, why are you unhappy to see it used outside whatever bit if Scotland you consider appropriate? I should also point out that Berwickshire doesn’t have any Gaelic place names at all but as it doesn’t have any railway stations either that’s something of a moot point I’m pretty sure the same applies to the Shetlands although I’m more certain about the railway stations 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: I should also point out that Berwickshire doesn’t have any Gaelic place names at all but as it doesn’t have any railway stations either that’s something of a moot point You big liar, what about Auchencrow? Edited June 16, 2019 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 You big liar, what about Auchencrow?Ossianism 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieThomas Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Back on the Gaelic signs, eh? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 As a native of the currently maligned Ayrshire I'd like to point out that I frequently catch the train at the wonderfully named (Scotrail style) Cill D' Fhinnein. A more apt name for a town in any language I have yet to come across. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 D' Fhinnein.Potential big team found but not sure tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ira Gaines Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Stunning to see Granny do a runner from this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 17, 2019 Author Share Posted June 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Principal Flutie said: Stunning to see Granny do a runner from this. Not doing a runner, simply don’t see the point in repeating myself. I will add this however as a final note. If I was asked to list the things that I saw as important for Scotland the promotion of Gaelic wouldn’t make the top one hundred, probably not even the top one thousand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BawWatchin Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 13 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Not doing a runner, simply don’t see the point in repeating myself. I will add this however as a final note. If I was asked to list the things that I saw as important for Scotland the promotion of Gaelic wouldn’t make the top one hundred, probably not even the top one thousand. Who cares. Not everything we do needs to be urgently important and even although I don’t understand a word of Gaelic and probably never will. I take great delight in knowing that it’s printed on there anyway as it only winds up people that I probably wouldn’t like anyway. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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