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Just now, ICTJohnboy said:

 

Can you dispute any of the facts stated in that article?

Absolutely not. Johnson is toast because his own backbenchers are shitting a Labour revival. It won't be the country that throws him out. I still hate the Guardian though.

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1 minute ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said:

Absolutely not. Johnson is toast because his own backbenchers are shitting a Labour revival. It won't be the country that throws him out. I still hate the Guardian though.

 

So what would be your preferred choice of Daily/Sunday Rag?

 

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16 minutes ago, Highlandmagyar Tier 3 said:

Absolutely not. Johnson is toast because his own backbenchers are shitting a Labour revival. It won't be the country that throws him out. I still hate the Guardian though.

A labour revival? There's no upcoming election and it's kier starmer in charge of labour. Johnson can stay in place for the next couple of years until it's election time, then out he goes and in comes rishi or whatever greedy incompetent they have lined and give it the "new leader, new government" patter and England will lap it up. 

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24 minutes ago, GTG_03 said:

A labour revival? There's no upcoming election and it's kier starmer in charge of labour. Johnson can stay in place for the next couple of years until it's election time, then out he goes and in comes rishi or whatever greedy incompetent they have lined and give it the "new leader, new government" patter and England will lap it up. 

Also, so long as Johnson keeps his nose clean for a while, they'll have another successful campaign in a few years' time even with him as the figurehead. Everyone will have forgotten by then, and the press will do nothing to help remind them so long as they keep getting invites to parties at No. 10.

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25 minutes ago, GTG_03 said:

A labour revival? There's no upcoming election and it's kier starmer in charge of labour. Johnson can stay in place for the next couple of years until it's election time, then out he goes and in comes rishi or whatever greedy incompetent they have lined and give it the "new leader, new government" patter and England will lap it up. 

I think a new Tory leader/PM would certainly get a bounce in the polls.  The problem for the Tory Party is twofold.

Firstly, Johnson won’t last much longer, his lies are finally catching up with him and there’s more to come, IMO he will be gone by the Spring.

Secondly, the country is in a mess.  Covid has largely masked the impact of Brexit as has the delays in full implementation of the various regulations.  It’s a ticking bomb.  The financial support for Covid will limit options for the U.K. government for the foreseeable future and inflation is hitting levels not seen for years and is only going to rise.

Any incoming PM will have to deal with these issues and by the time of the next GE will be drowning in problems.  Any popularity bounce will be gone by then.

 

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1 minute ago, NotThePars said:

Any Labour win would be as disastrous for the UK in the long term because they're devoid of ideas and have signalled their intent to continue down the same path of (managed) decline. 

It would be as disastrous for Labour as anything else.

Enough folk have resigned themselves to the fact that this is as good as it gets for the plebs without an inactive "left-wing" party being elected and convincing even more.

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Labour are never getting another overall majority again anyway. Regardless of how bad the Tories are, the press are more than capable of shitfesting a hung parliament over the line for them.

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18 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said:

A wee bit ad hominem  for someone who claims to be upset at people being insulting or abusive on here, non?

If the post you quote was in response to one of mine, it really doesn't bother me at all.  I didn't see the actual post itself as life is too short to bother with that particular 'induhvidual'. 

(For anyone unfamiliar with the term induhvidual, it was accepted by Dilbert cartoonist Scott Adams as a term to describe a certain sort of person.  One handy, short, definition is "A foolish person, especially one whose blundering creates difficulty for others."  I've decided not to allow SS to create anything at all for me. Others sometimes quote his/her posts, so there's an occasional giggle, but as for direct contact, I'd rather eat cardboard with chopsticks on a sinking ship.)

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19 hours ago, Kima Greggs said:

Labour are never getting another overall majority again anyway. Regardless of how bad the Tories are, the press are more than capable of shitfesting a hung parliament over the line for them.

I remember people saying similar about the Tories in the mid noughties when they were burning through leaders and before King Tony abdicated. Also said about Labour before John Smith. Things changed pretty fast. 
I don’t think that the Tories are about to come unstuck quite so spectacularly any time soon but I do think that time will come. 

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23 minutes ago, coprolite said:

I remember people saying similar about the Tories in the mid noughties when they were burning through leaders and before King Tony abdicated. Also said about Labour before John Smith. Things changed pretty fast. 
I don’t think that the Tories are about to come unstuck quite so spectacularly any time soon but I do think that time will come. 

Fair enough, but those were different times. They may very well win an election, but I struggle to see a path to an overall majority.

Particularly with proposed ID requirements and any further boundary changes/gerrymandering.

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