coprolite Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 7 minutes ago, Zern said: Pope's off to hospital. Not to church. Because he wants results not thoughts and prayers. They should let ladies be Popes because they last longer and wouldn't need replaced so often. Look at our own overlords and how much more durable Vicky and Liz were than any of the male lizards. I might write in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Zern said: Pope's off to hospital. Not to church. Because he wants results not thoughts and prayers. I read that too. It reminded me of something I heard or maybe read ages ago. I've had a Google but can't find it. It went something like 'if I'm involved in an accident and am seriously hurt, I want to hear an ambulance siren, not chanting or wind chimes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, Zern said: Pope's off to hospital. Not to church. Because he wants results not thoughts and prayers. It'll be the thoughts and prayers that pull him through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: I read that too. It reminded me of something I heard or maybe read ages ago. I've had a Google but can't find it. It went something like 'if I'm involved in an accident and am seriously hurt, I want to hear an ambulance siren, not chanting or wind chimes. Billy Connolly talking about a motoway pile up with someone shouting "let me through, I'm an aromatherapist"? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Sturgeon gone, Posticoglu gone and now the Pope ? Some treble that. All they had to do was sacrifice Tina Turner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 2 hours ago, coprolite said: Billy Connolly talking about a motoway pile up with someone shouting "let me through, I'm an aromatherapist"? Or as was in a comedy programme somewhere... "Let me through, I'm a nosy b@stard" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StellarHibee Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Herc said: Sturgeon gone, Posticoglu gone and now the Pope ? Some treble that. All they had to do was sacrifice Tina Turner. A successful season all round for The Rangers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMoore Posted June 11, 2023 Share Posted June 11, 2023 On 07/06/2023 at 11:21, Herc said: Sturgeon gone, Posticoglu gone and now the Pope ? Some treble that. All they had to do was sacrifice Tina Turner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65927794 A Ryanair flight attendant announced the destination as "Tel Aviv, Palestine". BBC quote this guy and his response: Tel Aviv is, of course, in Palestine as is the entire nation state of Israel. From the Wikipedia entry: Jaffa is the indigenous city that the settlers built Tel Aviv around and to recognise that, Tel Aviv-Jafo is the official Israeli state name. However, the "Jafo" (Hebrew for Jaffa) part of the name is commonly dropped. Zionists typically don't protest this as it serves Palestinian erasure. So the complainants here can't even appeal to technicality given they're happy for the name of the city to not be respected. BBC quoted a zionist activist in USA who ranted about Ireland despite the "incident" involving an Italian flight attendant. So a really shit quote from a really shit choice of source. The activist's use of the phrase "alternative facts" and BBC failing to challenge that is the most cynical part. BBC didn't bother to ask the flight attendant why they said what they did. BBC also didn't bother to quote a Palestinian activist (perhaps the BBC views the Palestinian perspective as alternative facts). I'm seeing this pattern repeat across media increasingly frequently. We have established outlets who consult with established sources to report news events. Any dissent to the framing of that reporting runs the risk of being called alternative facts, disinformation, misinformation or conspiracy theorising. Now, we need to be clear here, dissent against establishment framing certainly can be all of those things and often is. However, I feel we've reached a point now where the use of these labels has become very cynical and is being used to silence legitimate dissent. Twitter, for example, is now rife with folk like this. "Counter-disinformation" and "fact checkers" who do nothing of the sort. Instead their aim is to silence dissenting voices that come from a position of less material power. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 On 16/06/2023 at 18:20, FreedomFarter said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65927794 A Ryanair flight attendant announced the destination as "Tel Aviv, Palestine". BBC quote this guy and his response: Tel Aviv is, of course, in Palestine as is the entire nation state of Israel. From the Wikipedia entry: Jaffa is the indigenous city that the settlers built Tel Aviv around and to recognise that, Tel Aviv-Jafo is the official Israeli state name. However, the "Jafo" (Hebrew for Jaffa) part of the name is commonly dropped. Zionists typically don't protest this as it serves Palestinian erasure. So the complainants here can't even appeal to technicality given they're happy for the name of the city to not be respected. BBC quoted a zionist activist in USA who ranted about Ireland despite the "incident" involving an Italian flight attendant. So a really shit quote from a really shit choice of source. The activist's use of the phrase "alternative facts" and BBC failing to challenge that is the most cynical part. BBC didn't bother to ask the flight attendant why they said what they did. BBC also didn't bother to quote a Palestinian activist (perhaps the BBC views the Palestinian perspective as alternative facts). I'm seeing this pattern repeat across media increasingly frequently. We have established outlets who consult with established sources to report news events. Any dissent to the framing of that reporting runs the risk of being called alternative facts, disinformation, misinformation or conspiracy theorising. Now, we need to be clear here, dissent against establishment framing certainly can be all of those things and often is. However, I feel we've reached a point now where the use of these labels has become very cynical and is being used to silence legitimate dissent. Twitter, for example, is now rife with folk like this. "Counter-disinformation" and "fact checkers" who do nothing of the sort. Instead their aim is to silence dissenting voices that come from a position of less material power. Most of his stuff is obsessional about Russia - did he post something about this incident? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 7 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Most of his stuff is obsessional about Russia - did he post something about this incident? No, he has nothing to do with the Ryanair incident. His remit is to use people's disgust at Russian crimes against Ukraine as cover to push US jingoism, taking particular aim at China. I used him because he's the most cartoonish example I've come across of what I'm trying to highlight. A completely biased propagandist who presents himself as the opposite to that, even unironically calling himself an "Info Warrior". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 Her body may well be a-moulderin' in the grave but Mrs. Ts legacy just keeps on a-givin with news that Thames Water (in particular) & the other companies are in financial trouble.... Mounting debts and public anger could finally sink UK water companies | Water | The Guardian Quote For decades, water firms, which were handed a monopoly with no debts at privatisation in 1989, have been loading up debt to pay dividends, while failing to adequately invest in the infrastructure to fulfil their legal duty: to provide clean water to customers and treat their sewage. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, btb said: Her body may well be a-moulderin' in the grave but Mrs. Ts legacy just keeps on a-givin with news that Thames Water (in particular) & the other companies are in financial trouble.... Mounting debts and public anger could finally sink UK water companies | Water | The Guardian It’s always nice to be reminded that Thatcher's dead. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Opinion on contrasting approaches to antiracism. Quote Making the distinction between liberal and radical transforms the debate on antiracism. Conservative attacks on the elitism of antiracists ring true to many because liberal antiracists do indeed think it is the job of elites to educate working-class people out of their irrational beliefs. But that is less true of radical antiracists: they might despair at the historical reluctance of white workers to unite with other exploited classes but they are clear that wealthy elites are their main antagonists. To them, antiracism is about finding ways to build collective power across differently positioned groups of working people. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/29/antiracism-diversity-training-liberal-antiracists-vocabulary-direct-action 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 34 minutes ago, Herc said: Anyone know the best way to get vomit off an iPhone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 The despicable Tory Rwanda asylum plan has been declared unlawful by the Court of Appeal. Braverman's dream of watching these flights take off is dead in the water. How long until she is ranting about woke lefty judges? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 27 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: The despicable Tory Rwanda asylum plan has been declared unlawful by the Court of Appeal. Braverman's dream of watching these flights take off is dead in the water. How long until she is ranting about woke lefty judges? It's started already, not Lefty Judges, but the ECHR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 The line "This is a deeply disappointing ruling in the face of the clear will of Parliament" sums up the Tory attitude. It's basically "f**k you, we should be allowed to do whatever the f**k we want, regardless of morality and legality" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: The despicable Tory Rwanda asylum plan has been declared unlawful by the Court of Appeal. Braverman's dream of watching these flights take off is dead in the water. How long until she is ranting about woke lefty judges? The only way to deal with this is only to appoint white judges born and bred in Millwall who left school at 14… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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